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Everything Wrong With Patience (the NEW Autistic Detective Drama on Channel 4) (Patreon)

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2025-02-24 00:10:00
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Katzenbekloppt

Look what I just found, non-UKers like me ;-) : https://youtu.be/KR7Sfk8kI-k?si=VjdPo1sokOpB0O07 it´s the complete season 1 on YT (maybe You can pin this, Meg?)

Marianne

I haven't watched Patience but I did watch Astrid & Raphaëlle, and I don't actually think they used the schizophrenia misdiagnosis bit. I could be wrong, but I think she was supposed to have been correctly diagnosed quite young. However, the rest of the doctor's attitude and comments is similar to what I remember in the French show. They did not do the black and white thing, though!

Katzenbekloppt

Okay, I do not remember if it was this one where we were asked about other autism-topic-TV-series we could recommend. So, there was a new one for children on second official german broadcast (ZDF) which played in Scotland and was made for older kids (around 12 I guess). I watched all episodes although I didn´t liked it (unfortunatly the second story about witch trials was the reason I needed to know the resolving so I watched all and make a critique for You, Meg) and got more and more aggressive. The moment I wanted to scream was the moment they wanted to sell us autistic burnout. It was the worst I´ve ever seen and the problem is, it clearly wants to teach allisticas how autism represents. You said that was Your problem with Paige (I think the actor could have been the same as one of the autistic sisters). But here it was REALLY bad! Insulting! Wrong! Stereotype like fuck! So I wanted to look up how the series is called in english (in german it´s "Addie and how she feels the world") and after a while I found it: "A kind of spark". And now I am distressed. Because I think a lot wrote about it as "very good". Emmmm....How? I think it was not this article but I can´t find the one I mean. But feel free to cut it out and put it where we should post good ones for You to make rewies about. I´d really like to hear if I am the only one finding it horrible and why others think it´s good.

J4

It's finally made it to the US on PBS.

J4

They also brought up the "refrigerator mother" theory of autism in one of the doctor flashbacks. Definitely seemed to have diagnoses or theories of autism that are much older than 2003.

NiehtMarie

And then we have Woo Young-Woo introducing herself to everyone in the exact same way with the exact same monologue through her entire story in every episode. It's not that hard to have consistent autistic traits, just choose something and bring it up everywhere. 😅

Elise

Reaction/review request: Would you react to/review the series Ludwig. It's very strongly autistic coded. British mystery series.

Elise

I don't think many of the traits you mention are those of savants, though I think they seem that way to NTs. The Autistic ppl in my ambit all have traits/skills that seem magical to NTs. Even just attention to detail, a common autistic trait will seem like genius or magic to NTs. It's quite common to have what could be described as heightened senses also - which also isn't genius or magical yet may to them. Ditto with pattern recognition and spatial abilities and visual thinking and being hyperlexic. I would say that these are not unusual things for a garden variety autistic person.

WordWiseWood

I had never heard of 'Patience' nor 'Astrid' before you mentionned them here. So I've watched both series a few months ago. They have indeed much in common, such as the plot of several episodes. Most of your critics apply to the French show too. I prefer the relationship between the two main characters in the French version because Raphaëlle is always respectful and acceptant of her coworker's difference from the start, even when she doesn't understand her. But I liked Patience's character better, she's more relatable. Astrid is VERY stereotyped and is definitely a savant. Unfortunately it looks like France is not going to get a (good) representation of autistic high-maskers in the media any time soon. Our public-awareness materials are so outdated and the stigma too important. I've looked it up and apparently the ONLY French actor who is open about their autism diagnosis is the one playing that small neurotypical part in the show 😥

Rabbel

Don’t mind me being almost a year late. I’m curious if you’ve ever watched the Swedish show Young royals on Netflix? It’s not about an autistic person but there’s a canonically autistic girl in it and she’s a pretty important character. She’s also played by an autistic actor. If you’ve watched it I’d love to know how you felt about it and if you thought it was good representation. Loved this video btw!!