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Radiant Tiefling

Thank you for the chapter. Looking forward to the rest of the kingdom learning the Rock and Lannisport both fell.

thevolunteer

Woo! Renly got it up before dying! Good for him, and honestly quite bad for Marg and the Tyrells. Hard to be opportunistic and conniving when all the other kings think your kid might push a claim on their throne.

Josda29

So Marge is pregnant, that only leaves Dani as a wife option unless Daemon doesn't mind.

Ben.K15

She isn’t an option, regardless of whether Daemon minds. She’s now a widow, and pregnant one at that, big no no. Two, she’s pregnant with what could be argued to be the rightful heir (after Stannis, and we all know he isn’t gonna make it). 3. The power of the reach is basically under siege. Aegon from the south, the Ironborn from the sea, Stannis from the Stormlands, and the remnants of the Lannisters.

StrevHd

Well that sucks for Marge. She is no longer a viable wife for anyone. Even if she took moon tea to snuff out the kid, she's "used goods" to noble society. She was the only person in the room when her husband died and it was obviously a blade not an illness. This chapter shows that 2 of the biggest Reach families are either giving token support or none at all. The Reach army is in very poor position and condition. Finally for Jon specifically the Tarlys might not follow him because Jon stopped Sam from taking the NW oath, so he can technically inherite Horn Hill if all other dudes kick the bucket. Yeah I can't see how Marge goes forward from here. I also don't know whose a viable Queen for Jon at this point. Ari is shacking up with Feagon. Marge is no longer viable. Marcy is a bastard born of incest. Unless this fic changes things Dany is infertile. Asha is a pirate that abides the Iron Price. Sansa and Arya are his sisters. At this point he might as well see if the Sea Lord of Bravos has a daughter. That might at least clear up the Iron Bank debt or lower it.

Ben.K15

It’s Dany. Solidifies his claim, roughly the same age, Dany is NOT infertile if Barristan reaches her prior to the blood ritual for the dragons. As far as I know, she hasn’t even been sold to the Dothraki yet. In the main story she was, but I don’t recall any mentions of it in UaRoB. Not to mention she never was actually infertile after the “curse”, in Dance of Dragons, she sufferes a miscarriage after eating unknown berries

EM

Well Renly died swinging, and finally did the deed. But seriously the Tyrells are in deep, deep shit. Marg being pregnant just cost her the crown. This only leave Daenerys as the only logical option for Jon to marry since Faegon took Arianne as his wife. Dany has three dragons and possibly an army of Unsullied, so Jon would definitely want that.

Tank45

I wonder who takes the blame for Renly’s death here. Tyrell’s could blame Aegon or Daemon as Stannis using magic is probably going to not be a thought for them. I feel killing Renly off here was quite surprising. Yeah I understand why Stannis did so but why not target one of the greater threats at this moment like Daemon or Aegon? Congratulations Renly! You got it up!!!!

Arcturus

Margaery is now out of brides' list, same as Dane... No one of lords would understand if King would wed widows of bi-swordswalower or Dothraki horselover with pregnancies or even kids. That would be sooooo big blow for Daemon's reputation in their eyes(sad but medieval moral is quite barbaric...) Option of Alysanne Lefford as rich heiress of strategic castle and big treasury, plus integration of Westerland in King's personal domain would be quite good option. Or Ysilla Royce, favorite daughter of Bronze Yohn. Perfect option of powerful family, First Men' blood and strategic advantage

Tom Tat

I think you made an error. One of the lords calls Rob, Your Grace, which he can't do, after all Jon is the only king. He can say my Lord or Lord Stark.

Jajasx222

Huh, you are right, thanks for the catch! I was probably thinking about Renly's scene when I wrote that lol.

jaylen

Not true actually, widows were remarried all the time if they were of high enough noble birth. Even them birthing a child was a sign of fertility tha kings and other nobles looked for.

jaylen

Decent interlude, sucks to be Renly as it always does. People in the comments keep trying to write off a widow pregnant or otherwise as an eligible bride and they're only half right in so far as because she currently pregnant she's not a option but historically nobles remarried others widows all the time even when they had multiple children. But all that's moot because there really is no better choice of bride than Dany.

EM

Yeah, but she’s carrying a claimant to the Iron Throne, that makes the child a threat.

Jajasx222

There are going to be some wild rumors going on. Some would probably belive that the Tyrells killed him after getting their own heir.

Jajasx222

They can still push for the unborn child's claim. But they would be very alone doing so. Still, risk-reward. If they win they are the sole power behind the throne, and if any house has the resources to fight the rest of the realm it is house Tyrrell. We will see what they do in the future, for now we go back to Jon in his new castle.

Jajasx222

Yeah, they are in a hard position. They can't just go to another claimant now. It might be bad for Jon though, if Margeary were not pregnant they might have gone to him.

Xodarap4

A route the Tyrells could take would be to marry Margery to Daemon say Renly's child is set for the Storms End seat if not the throne via Targaryen lineage behind Daemons own Children with Margery then let Daemon and Stannis throw down over the stormlands as Aegon buts his head through the marches

Jajasx222

Jon would never take that deal, he would expect the tyrells trying to kill him after he puts a child in Margeary.

Tank45

I’ve seen comments about the timeline but I have no idea where we are in the timeline. Has Daenerys hatched her dragons? Is Viserys dead yet? I’m actually kind of confused a bit on it. I’m pretty sure Renly died after all that but I don’t remember any of that being mentioned? Is it still 298 AC?

Jajasx222

We are already in 299 ac. Dany hatched her dragons almost at the same time as Jon did.

Ellie

Ohmygosh 🫣 Is… is Margery going to be blamed? I can’t decide how closely to canon this will roll. I mean, obviously the Reach won’t spread it but the Stomlanders? Having done battle against a verrry competent looking Stannis may just lean into the notion that the Tyrells disposed of Renly after an heir was planted and, quite frankly, it’s almost believable… if you squint hard enough. Like, really hard. Logically, that move doesn’t make sense but with their keeps in danger from Aegon it’ll be interesting to see which way the wind blows both for the Tyrell and Stormlanders. Great update!

Invictus

Cool chapter, based off what you said you are looking to get back to Jons POV so thats a W. The Tyrells have two options atm maybeee more, Option 1, is push for Renlys Kid claim and be forced to fight Stannis, Aegon, and Daemon. This option is extremely unappealing considering Stannis will almost assuredly gain control over the majority of the Stormlands, so thats upwards of 30K swords going back to him. Stannis will have to contend with Aegon whos marching on his likely new seat of power. Which I hope you dont disrespect Stannis and say the fool gets put under siege again and then lose a 1v1 LOL. I dont see any scenario where Renlys kid maintains the loyalty of the Stormlords with Stannis and Aegon bearing down on them. The Reach only has three really high skilled warriors/commanders, with Rowan Tarly and Garlan realistically, I also just dont see them being able to defeat all the might of the Dornish and Golden Company without losing 20-35K due to the elephants and their own armies, then facing Stannis will most assuradly lead to losing much more men and by the time they could conceivably fight Daemon, dude will have crushed the Westerlands and Kings Landing while bolstering his forces to outmatch what the Reach can raise near its peak. Its the least likely to be chosen now that Daemon has conquered the Rock and embarrassed Tywin. Thats not even mentioning how the Reach isnt even fully behind Renly so why would they be fully devoted to his unborn kid? Option 2 is to declare for an existing claimant and relinquish the hold for the crown, in return of getting Storms end for Renlys kid. Stannis MIGHT be willing to consider that, but The Tyrells would never trust him or work with him after what happened and Margery seeing it. Aegon might do it but hes got the least credibility and manpower at his disposal and frankly considering Stannis is out for killing Renly, Joffrey is out for Loras dying, that really only leaves Daemon as the only option. (Since Daenarys is nowhere to be found atm) However they may try to force a marriage alliance which Daemon would likely turn down. which in all likelihood only results in the Reach folding back in on itself and just defending itself. from invaders like Aegon. I can see this being an exception with Tarly and Rowan straight up declaring for Daemon, same with Redwyne when his kids are now Daemons hostages lol. Frankly while I kinda doubt its going to happen I do hope we see a semi foil of Stannis the Mannis beating back Aegon to Dorne, as a foil to Daemon successfully conquering his enemies while the Pretender is losing his own battles while claiming to be the elder son of Rhaegar. Also this is slightly off topic, and more speculative but lets assume Dany goes on the same journey of freeing the slaves and joins back up with Daemon and marrys him, do you plan to dive in more on westeros actually supporting the Dragons bay more, like sending over lords to govern the realm since clearly they cant do it on their own lol. I often see fics of if a targ king or the other conqured apart of Essos and added it to westeros the, political aspect is really great imo. Not that thats going to happen anyways. Ill yap more on this later, great story btw

Tank45

Great analysis, feels like a marriage with Margaery is out of the cards, too much risk as she’s carrying a claimant. If it’s a girl it might be possible. I could see Rowan declaring for Daemon but Tarly is a wildcard. Under normal circumstances I could see it but there’s one factor I think you’re overlooking. That being, Samwell Tarly. Daemon stopped him from taking the black and that could piss off Lord Tarly who tried to get rid of him, on the other hand, his son having Daemon’s favor could also work in his favor.

Simplexity

I'm glad tbh didn't want the Tyrells to have a foot in the crown. Looks like it's up to best girl Asha to steal the glor- Ahem as much as I'd love that it's most likely gonna be Dany. Maybe he could swing Asha if she's infertile as a second wife though. *Cough* the dragon has three heads and unlike all the other kingdoms the Ironborn are fine with Polygamy. Besides Asha and Dany are both bi and while Asha can be a captain and sail the seas Dany can mother the children. Win win.

alejandro campe

Now there aren’t any real maidens to betroth to Jon or Robb. Unless it’s a Royce or a Tyrell cousin. I don’t see mace giving power to a branch of his house. Royce is appealing, but not as a queen, they bring at most 10 thousand swords and a divided kingdom. That means extra duties for Daemon for not a lot of gain. Unless house Royce can get most Lords or knights of the Vale. I don’t see it. Maybe for Robb? Maybe house redwyne of the Arbor? Their current lord is married to a main line Tyrell, however if I remember canon the twin heirs are guests of the red keep. Daenerys if she isn’t infertile might be the only option. Since somehow I don’t see Jon marrying Asha Greyjoy. Everyone hates them and that might bring more headaches than their worth. While this secures the western border of the North, Riverlands and Westerlands, allowing for more men to comer from the north plus adding their fleets. This allows him the mobility to strike at dorne and sunspear quite easily. This might also deny Euron his salt water crown. Honestly while the ironborn are useless, under Euron they become terrifying. Especially if he has the design horn. Dameon only has one dragons after all. Maybe a good choice would be a blood royal or Dayne of Dorme? Cause some discord in Aegons camp. The Yronbloods might actually me able to deny access back to Dorne for the dormido army. It also punishes the Martells in the future by possibly removing them from the warden ship of dorne. The best way to break a dormido might be with another Dormish. Unless Daenerys is fertile I don’t see her as queen either You know the situation is messed up if the Greyjoys are the most tactical and rational choice