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Frommer Pistolen-MG Model 1917: A Crazy Villar Perosa Copy (ad-free) (Patreon)

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2022-11-23 12:00:06
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2026-06
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After encountering Italian Villar Perosa machine pistols in the field, Austro-Hungarian troops requested a similar weapon. The project was given to FÉG to work on, and the result was the Pistolen-MG Model 1917: a pair of Frommer Stop pistols with long barrels and 25-round magazines, redesigned to fire from the open bolt, mounted to an adorably tiny tripod and spade grips.   

Only a few dozen of these were made for testing, and they were not accepted for military service. Many thanks to Joschi Schuy for giving me access to film that fantastic surviving example for you!

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Frommer Pistolen-MG Model 1917: A Crazy Villar Perosa Copy (ad-free)

https://utreon.com/c/forgottenweapons/ http://www.patreon.com/ForgottenWeapons http://www.floatplane.com/channel/ForgottenWeapons Cool Forgotten Weapons merch! http://shop.forgottenweapons.com After encountering Italian Villar Perosa machine pistols in the field, Austro-Hungarian troops requested a similar weapon. The project was given to FÉG to work on, and the result was the Pistolen-MG Model 1917: a pair of Frommer Stop pistols with long barrels and 25-round magazines, redesigned to fire from the open bolt, mounted to an adorably tiny tripod and spade grips. Only a few dozen of these were made for testing, and they were not accepted for military service. Many thanks to Joschi Schuy for giving me access to film that fantastic surviving example for you! Contact: Forgotten Weapons 6281 N. Oracle 36270 Tucson, AZ 85740

Comments

Chairman

I hope since it wasn't accepted, Othais doesn't have to worry about getting his hands on it.

Minion

It's like a pair of Owens and the mount for an MG08, did something which is illegal in a number of countries.

Guido Schriewer

adorable. there is sure some practical thinking in it but the range... in alpine terrain...

Fred V PATTERSON

Thanks, Enjoyed the history. Pretty clever idea.

AC C

What was the thum screw for on the right side pistol (just above the trigger...or below from the pistol's perspective) and why was it not on both guns?

EyeBall

That design is an ingenious adaptation of an existing pistol. Amazing things do not always make it to market. Thank you for sharing with us.

Dirk Wall

Now thats the kind of quality content, I became a patron for and youre not gonna find anywhere else. Absolutely marvellous piece. I had no idea something like this existed.

The Bone Clock

The twin mount version would be a really fun short range treed squirrel gun from my porch!

Patrick Yamada

I enjoyed the look into weird Austro-Hungarian history. Now I want a strange bullet-spraying-thing, also. Re-zeroing them once the pistols were removed for maintenance would have been especially interesting had they gone into service in a fierce battle.

ViejoLobo

1911 guy: "The grip safety does what?"

Glenn Miller

What a wild attempt at a machine gun! Thanks.

Gavin Rea-Davies

BUG match? Use the 25 round stick mag in the short pistol, and try to get off 6 bursts at a gazillion rounds per minute 😂