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Cédric Bardoux

It took a terrible toxic turn. Dark one. But I want to see how this going to devellop.

Sonita Mong

Tong is very manipulative person and he is using Ming to get what he wants. Probably Ming had the crush on Tong for a very long time so he didn’t realize that he’s in love with Joe until he lost Joe. From the previous Episode, there was a clip where they showed Tong doing the stunt and Ming just felt for him but I had a feeling that the person he was always had a feeling for is actually Joe all along because it was Joe that doing the Stunt for Tong in that video that Ming saw. In the video it only showed the back of the actor so that could be Joe not Tong even though he claimed that it’s his movie. Joe know how to fight not Tong so I assumed that the one that played in that fighting scene is must be Joe.

Melanin Queen

I really can’t stand Ming or Tong they really are monsters. The fact that Ming just hit Joe upside his head and handcuffs him so he won’t be able to get the lead role with Sol is insane behavior. Ming is so controlling and toxic and it’s really ridiculous. He really ruined Joe chances of being an actor because of his jealousy. Even in the next preview it’s looks like he’s going to start trouble for Joe again, like I really don’t like this man at all. 😑😡. It’s going to take a while for me to start feeling sympathy for him. Overall this was a good episode but a rollercoaster of emotions too.

JJ

I also immediately thought of VegasPete. But I also liked Vegas much better than Ming. Sol is the only one who was there for Joe, I wish those two were endgame. I'm not sure yet if I'll ever forgive Ming and like him, but I still like this series a lot so far.

Bunny

Seriously this show frustrates me soooo bad. The fact they will 100% be endgame frustrates me even more (I didn't read the novel, but it's obvious since they're the mains). Gaslighting, possessive behaviour, abusive and that locking him up is WILD. And Ming is still living in his appartement??? If Joe wants to be with him after this then there is no saving him 😔 Honestly Sol should be wiih Joe. He's the only one who supports him I feel so bad no one else does. And Joe took him for granted 💔 I was surprised the accident wasn't on purpose. I had expected it to be. Like you said before this would've been so good as a revenge plot haha

RosaA

You know I'm usually the type to give red flags a chance and I can make excuses for them, but Ming NO THANK YOU. Like Joe please RUN, the gaslighting and obsession with Joe.. this episode too me felt like a fever dream. I'm not sure I'll be able to like Ming after this, wishing Joe somehow would end up with Sol.

star

I think Tong is worse because in my head, he’s not even doing this for love? don’t get me wrong, Ming is still redder than a stop sign, toxic, abusive, possessive, etc, nor does that excuse anything 😂 but I do believe that he does like joe, as screwed up as his feelings are. Ming is screwed up but he does care for people? Like I think that’s why he never moved on Tong, because of his sister, who he has a good relationship with. He even was willing to bottom for Joe to get him to stay with him. Tong….idk he manipulates Ming, he’s an ass to the crew, he’s just an ass to work with?? I don’t think he cares for anyone but himself, so I think he’s worse. With that said, I just kept screaming during the middle of the episode 😭😭 Wut made the mistake of giving Joe an all or nothing choice when all that means is that Joe is gonna go anyway but this time without any support at all!!!!! God. It makes me so sad to think about how his og body is just in a freaking pit in the mountains :( Also I 100% get what you mean at the end, it’s far more palatable when it gets toxic4toxic vs this kind of relationship where it’s v clear cut victim and abuser yk? It’s harder to swallow even if we all know it’s fiction and just a story. And like we’ve gotten toxic MLs before but Ming, ough 😭 esp since Joe is the sweetest thing like you said. I’m enjoying myself too and I’m so excited to see how the rest of the show is gonna go! Also. Shout out to Poom and Up’s acting wow.

Anna dayhuff

Okay I am liking this series a lot but I don’t know what direction it’s taking , I think the reason I like Ming is because I like up the actor playing him. I’ve always liked him that’s my toxic bl trait liking characters because I like the actors . but yeah I honestly don’t think Ming or tong would’ve had him killed that’s just my gut feeling . My money is either on the director or the guy in sharpe of the company because I’ve been sus the the guy in charge ever since we met him at the hospital and usually my gut feelings aren’t wrong so yeah but I do agree with you that this shows some Parallels with Vegas and Pete Vegas had this sexy dangerous thing going on while Ming has thing dangerous thing going on . But for me just saying these first for episodes are all on establishing the story prior to episode 5, there’s a 2 year gap between those events and now so I’m not going to hate Ming all the way just yet. I’m going to see if he changes anything in those 2 years I think that’s fair because I really can’t judge his personality than on what it is now. Because a lot can change in 2 years and I don’t agree with anything that he has done mind you , I’m just gonna hold off on hating him all the way for the time being I’m at 95% hating him at this moment but yeah I really honestly don’t think Ming or tong killed him it’s someone else definitely but yeah just just my thoughts but really enjoyed it

Bernadette Camille McKellar

My thing is Tong doesn't know Ming has a little crush on him?... To me I think Tong does know. That scene with Joe and Ming in the bathroom, and Tong walks in and then Ming out the door like a puppy. Ming's sister and Tong at the restaurant where Joe and Ming happens to be dining... This series is going to give me seizures. But I'm here for it! Lol!

Vicki Jensen

Just found this on up,s youtube page two episodes like vlog https://youtu.be/-CnDVD4_Z4Q?si=Xcre7MQz6bi_4n0s With up and poom