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Question about content (Patreon)

Published:
2023-08-01 16:58:12
Imported:
2026-06

Poll

Question about content

  • No animations 73
  • Not enough alts 43
  • The art is getting stale/boring 8
  • Not drawing enough of my preferred species/characters 39
  • I can't afford to sub 51
  • Other 21
  • 2023-08-01
  • 235 votes
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Content

So lately things haven't been going very well, over the past several months there's been a steady decline and i'm not sure what to do. The content hasn't changed much and i feel like people might just be getting bored of the art.

If you've already unsubbed or are thinking of it, vote on what you feel may be the biggest issue for you. And as well, let me know your guys' opinions on the content in general

Comments

Dirt McGirt

I enjoy your content and have no plans on unsubbing. But I wouldn’t mind seeing a bit more animations

Chase04

Honestly Your art is still amazing and I don’t see anything wrong or that needs to be improved. Maybe you could try to Make new OCs. I definitely still love all of the art you make.

Freddie Brandt

Yeah, I have no plans of purposely unsubbing. Your content is still as good as always.

Matthew Burch

Still love your stuff. Always fantastic work. I personally prefer solely female characters (just not attracted to men). I really like your Pokémon you’ve drawn as it’s always interesting to see how you interpret them. Maybe polling people’s favorites and doing something with them? Or taking the least favorite and reinventing them to becoming the favorite. Either way I’m happy to continue supporting you.

Fen Longpaw

I hesitate to suggest this, as (pardon any pun) pigeon holing an artist is a great way to kill their interest in art at all, but I think you've had fewer bird pieces than you used to, and it is kind of in your name dear

Fen Longpaw

I'm also guessing you'd have little need for a post like this if many of the leaving patrons had answered the exit poll that anyone who unpledges from a creator has to go through before it lets you finalize your cancellation. So it's safe to assume most of them skipped though it?

Kaada

I have no reason to abandon you. Your drawings are very well made and, for the lack of a better word, beautiful. If there's one thing I noticed however, is that your art does not invoke the same level of excitement in me than other art of the same classification. I can't really describe it. Maybe I think of your art of higher quality and the focus is more on that than the the fact that the characters are mostly naked and intended to get people excited. It's difficult to describe. I am conflicted about the post. On the one hand I would like to suggest something, but on the other I don't like telling those I am subscribed to what to do. That's all up to you. When you only do what others tell you it can quickly become a chore. Unless what you are currently doing has already become a chore to you. In such a case you might want to simply try something new. Completely different than what you have done before. But whatever you may think about, never hesitate to act on it. (Otherwise you end up like me and sit still for many years) For example, have you ever thought about making a Comic?

Rendra

Personally i realy love your style and have no plan of leaving your patreon. I love how you draw your girls and the mini dialogue on it. Maybe you could try out small comics? Other than that, maybe adding a tier were you could add the character of a patreon as a cameo on the art you draw could attract people as well.

TheSpookiestSkeleton

I love seeing your art show up in my email, but I think what the problem you've run into is that while cheesecake is great, it does lack action, there's only so much some folks can do with imagination.

Lewis

Your art style is very high quality and laves very little room for improvement so I don't have any advice for you and I'm sorry for that. I just wanted to thank you for your amazing work. I really do hope you figure something out.

SuperBro.BrawlerKart

You draw a healthy balance of tits and ass, but I think the lack of sexual intercourse is what's holding you back imo. It's the reason why I reduced my tier here, at least. For a long while I was content to support you 10 a month, but as time went on I found other artists who hit my sweet spots better. I'm at a point where I can't support another artist without reducing or cutting off another, or risk stepping over my budget.

Felks Darkhan

Honestly the only thing I feel could be done is simply just do other characters. Like everything you do now is amazing, I always look forward to see your next piece. Maybe when doing character polls for your next piece only have characters that haven’t been done yet or in a long while. So you avoid drawing the same characters since people vote often for the same ones (although this does show that people very much like what you’ve been doing and want more).

UnknownQiQi

I agree with Jeremy mella where I love the art but would love to see 2-3 more animations in the future. I also agree with Felks Darkhan where I have voted for new things I would love to see like giratina when that was introduced but almost was immediately out voted because of your bee OC(can't remember name rn lol) which I like the OC and all but I wanted to see new characters and potentially get a new favorite. Also as another small thing along with a new character poll just a poll for less drawn characters like my favorites rn is ankha and kindred and I'm happy they got drawn and kindred had a animation but they have only had one style drawn for them and ankha was drawn in 2020 I would love to have 2-3 images for them and some people may be like me but want it for other lesser used characters.(just completely read Felks Darkhan post and just now realized he mentioned lesser drawn characters)

Remington matthews

I haven't used patreon in a long while but when I got the email on this poll I had to mention how much I truly love your art and didn't unsub just to keep the support as far as improvements I do agree that new characters will definitely give something fresh to look at as well as just trying something new like a comic for blossom or something

Addicted_to_Dreaming

Personally ya perfect, I may unsubscribe momentarily due to money management and/or subbing to other artists to check em out but I do enjoy your art enough that I intend to stay subbed. (Thinking if rn is a good time to double down and pay more)

Daggerfall25

It could also be some of the people are short of money with the way the economy is so some have to really budget to save money. But that could just be my area dont worry i don't plan on leaving anytime soon as long as my budget works out

tffeathers
>>114247382

I can't draw too much of the same species, especially if its a bird since birds rarely win polls

tffeathers
>>114254157

i see, it is a shame that i just dont see the appeal for sexual intercourse, its something idk if ill ever be able to understand

Zorky

Tbh your art is amazing! But there are times when people don’t have enough spare money to keep subbing, I do love huge bird but the downside for me is that the overrated characters get chosen every time in the poll. Other artists do the same thing with the polls, I don’t suggest a character bc it will just get defeated by the overrated ones. I do understand people don’t want underrated characters bc it doesn’t appeal to them or find them hot but it would be nice to see something new every now and then. But again! Your art is amazing and lovely!

Fen Longpaw

That is a thing with polls, especially in art: people don't know what they want until they have it. Art by committee ends up inherently watered down, and after so many rounds of votes where stuff that is most recognizable wins, rather than potentially interesting but largely unheard of characters, some patrons might get discouraged. The race to submit ideas for the poll also may have a competitive feeling also that may feel like it is antithetical to "why they pay to have input" with their pledge. The "first X suggestions go up" model doesn't really work for a multi timezone platform

Stewart Simpson

My suggestion is to have an exclusion list that characters go on after having won the poll multiple times, to allow for more variety. After a certain number of polls, excluded characters could be removed from the exclusion list at your discretion. You could also do polls for themes or variants instead of or in addition to polls for characters.

splatterfest233

I love the art, but yeah, despite how many characters are up for vote every time you put up a poll, it's clear the same few choices end up winning the vast majority of the time. As others have said, simply removing characters from the polls if they've been drawn recently or frequently would be a good way to add variety and entice new people.

Xaxis

I originally subbed huge bird for animations, specifically to cast a vote to the constant runner-up garchomp tiddy slap option. But even though there hasn’t been that kind of content in awhile, your style and quality was enough for me to rise to a golden bird regardless, where I’ll stay as long as possible.

Acero

honestly my only real issue is that you don't usually draw any of the characters i wanna see, mainly Blossom i'm staying subbed, don't worry, but so few people draw bug girls as well as you

tffeathers
>>114276531

i cant really think of a more viable way to do it, running them through an RNG would take too much time

tffeathers
>>114278915

I probably shouldnt limit the polls too much though, artists who are the most successful dont have much variety in what characters they draw

Acero
>>114290369

fair, i suppose i just have this weird lil crush on her

Fen Longpaw
>>114276531

I don't have a "best" solution, but I can give a suggestion based on what I've seen. I don't know how practical this would be for you since I can't see how many patrons you have from mobile, and I know that some people may think of this idea as not being fair because it's not either purely random or purely democratic, but Gewitter has his setup where patrons can make suggestions, but he still is the one to decide which ones he likes and then draws. There's a bunch of different variations you could do on it, but my main take from it is that people pledge to you as an artist, and it's fair to reason that a large part of that is the artistic liberty you may choose to take on a subject. If people trust your taste in how to shape a piece, I'd suggest they should trust your taste in what suggestions you get spark your inspiration. I think that could be more fulfilling to you, and that would come out in the art, hopefully drawing in more patrons. Plus as people get a feel for what suggestions you tend to gravitate to, while some may leave because that doesn't cater to their tastes, it reinforces your artistic identity, which future patrons would be able to clearly see and know what they're signing up for, and thus be more likely to stay.

Justin Daniels

Have you considered trying pics of actual sexual acts, instead of just nudes? Maybe that'd spice things up for people. I love you work either way.

Fen Longpaw
>>114276531

To elaborate on Gewitter's approach; he has three Discord channels that are accessable to high enough level patrons: one for YCH scene ideas, one for members OCs, and one for general discussion on the whole process. People can make suggestions for themes or scenes they'd like to see characters in in the first channel, Gewitter may pick any of those, recent or backlog (or even a sudden inspiration not suggested) and post the scene blocked out with labels for poses in it and various requirements that the characters in each need (to make it not a nightmare to rework), and members offer which of their characters they might want in which pose. Gewitter will reach out to the members who's characters he likes the idea of including, telling them which pose he thinks they would work well in, and as long as everyone is on board, he starts on the piece in earnest.

Justin Daniels
>>114308475

Nothing wrong with that. My only other suggestion is more femboys, but that's just a biased suggestion because you draw some of the BEST femboys lol

Drake Rider

Honestly, I originally came here for the Alts, not canceling my sub anytime soon or anything like that but it kinda sucks to see them so rarely