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Floyd Patterson and the Madness of Cus D'amato (Patreon)

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2017-12-30 20:39:34
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2026-06
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Floyd Patterson is one of the most under-rated, or at least overlooked, champions in the history of the heavyweight division. The youngest man to win the heavyweight crown to that point, Patterson started his professional career as a middleweight and moved up to knock out the biggest men in the boxing game. But Patterson's real accomplishments begin with the moment photographed above. After being humiliated in losing his title to Ingemar Johansson, knocked down seven times and dismissed as a blown up middleweight over-achiever. Patterson did the unimaginable and became the first man to reclaim the heavyweight title when he starched Johansson in the rematch and once more in the rubber match. The bit that is often left out is that Patterson should probably have won the title a third time but was robbed of his glory...

A unique fighter who broke away from the traditional and familiar styles of the 1940s and 1950s, Patterson was taught the rudiments of boxing by the enigmatic Cus D'amato. A paranoid, middle aged man whose ramblings veered between prophetic and delusional. Using what D'amato called a 'tight defence', Patterson's style would come to be dubbed the 'peek-a-boo' style of boxing. In the course of reclaiming his title, Patterson and D'amato would go from a perfect pairing to begrudging partners in a business venture. Both Patterson and D'amato would find redemption but decades apart. 

Floyd Patterson and the Madness of Cus D'amato is available now. 

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Apologies for getting this out with one day left of the month, my computer died and I lost the first cut of this episode. Thank you for your patience and your continued support of the Fights Gone By podcast!

Jack

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Adam Bebb

Enjoyed this one. Thanks

Jorge

Any way to get around the dl block?

Boo Urns

mediafile link has been blocked :(

Jon Arson

Hey! Mediafire has blocked the dl for this episode, google says it violates the terms of service

Bill gates

Liking it jack classic mate just curious you know your larkin study and stuff does shoulder rolling mean the punch hits your shoulder or is that just a general term thanks for all the work.

Jack Slack
>>9176143

The shoulder roll is part evasion and part guard. You can shoulder roll and the guy can miss altogther but a lot of good shoulder rollers use the impact of the right hand on their shoulder as a way to know that their in distance to land their own right.

Bill gates
>>9176143

Thanks mate I wouldn't try that with w4 ounce gloves that seems very painful

Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu

My first time listening to a Jack Slack Patreon cast. Sooooooo good. I just loved this. As an undersized fighter I might suggest there was a reason why Patterson didn't just "let his hands go". If indeed Cus regularly trained him against bigger, more powerful opponents he may very well have learned not to fully trust longer combinations or that hand speed. It may have made him face his fears, but fear also might have been woven into his style, making him more conservative against stronger, bigger fighters, until he could land the decisive hook, or felt he had enough of an upper hand. If you never get to bully sparring partners, as big heavyweights do, you can tend to fight with less liberty. Just a thought. Really enjoyed the storytelling, at every level.

Bill gates
>>9240262

Interesting I got jacks patreon not long ago dude is an I'm going to try an be a little more old fashioned a top bloke lol. Saenchai is a great guy to study in kickboxing he is generally smaller then his opponents. And yet does so well somehow if you want to see a guy in Jiu jitsu do well vs stringer opponents buy Marcelo garcias instructional combative sports are interesting. Because once your into it you never are not. Speaking of story telling I can't remember the last decent guy mvp fought lol

Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu
>>9240262

Maybe I'm not following your point, but I'm not saying that a smaller Floyd may have become gun-shy because of experiences in fights, but rather through his training regime under Cus, which likely involved very hard sparring against these bigger guys. Speaking of Saenchai, this is really the opposite of how Thai fighters are raised and trained, more or less since childhood. Most learn through pretty light sparring when they are kids. They get used to size differences right away, because nobody throws full power, at least not until they are older.

Bill gates
>>9240262

I defiantly think size is somewhat of a factor but I think speed and technique kills

Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu
>>9240262

Hey, you are talking to a small fighter who almost always is out-sized. I'm not going to argue with you. There are always ways to overcome size, most definitely!