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Lilly Le

I don’t know…Lexi, his brothers oldest and only best friend in the world would have something to say about that. Damon had no good reason to have her killed if we’re being honest. Not to mention eventually stealing his bros one true love while he was forced to become a monster in exchange for helping save his life. Or killing her brother (he got lucky with the ring)I feel like viewers of TVD often overlook the shitty things damon has done as it can be on par to klaus lol

Kitty Underwood

Tbh I always thought that Klaus did want the cure to make hybrids, but him being emotional and impulsive told them that he always planned to kill them and destroy the cure instead

Mark Rawleigh

Awesome reaction! I found your youtube channel a few months ago and just joined your Patreon recently, it has been so great binging your reactions! Idk if you realized this yet because I am so far behind but just because Kol and Finn were daggered for so long doesn't mean their vampire bloodlines are any smaller. The people that they turned into vampires before they were daggered would have still been going around turning people into vampires the whole time Klaus kept them in the coffins. It's not all based on who Kol and Finn turned directly.

Indre Duobaite

I’m so excited to watch this so hopefully I won’t just fall asleep since I’m really exhausted 😅

nennu

nennu

One more note: you are bang on the money with the fact that no matter how disfunctional the original family is, they do still all care about each other a lot, but again more on that later xdd

Patpet

Sorry to strongly disagree with you but I have fact that contradict your statements. The Originals is a great show compared to most show out there, but most definitely not the favourite with fandom in the TVD universe, TVD is. I don't know where you got this idea, but is incorrect. TVD during pandemic period was streamed 14 billion times, TVD has the rewatchability factor that TO doesn't have. In the IMDb that is the official site used by professionals in the industry of cinema and television, in their list of the most watched show of all times TVD is n 17, TO is not in the list. Not to talk about in term of quality, writing, originality, depth, acting, cinematography, TVD won 37 Awards, TO none, that is not by chance. There is no doubt that Joseph Morgan does Klaus justice, and he is one of the best villain of any TV show I've ever seen, apart from Nina that plays Katherine so differently by Elena that the audience forget that is the same actress, that is why she won 10 awards and Joseph one but during TVD as best villain, not in TO. Also in terms of complexity, of good writing, good acting, sorry to disagree again but Damon is the most interesting Character of all TVD universe and his complexity come the closest a character can get to a human complexity, an no other character have seen in any TV show has surpass that, so far, and nobody else could have play Damon so well as Ian Somerhalder played it, audiences and technical jury seem to agree since he won for the role 10 awards too, some shared with Nina for their chemistry. My point is you have to check facts before making assumption or give statements as they are fact and instead are just personal opinions and very personal preferences based of not understanding the complexity of things, the quality of writing and the quality of cinematography involved in show like TVD. Here we prefer to distinguish what is factual, for what is a personal opinion. Your statements are not factual are personal opinions that cannot be pass for facts because not only are not backed up by facts, but are contradicted. TO is not a fan favourite, fact, TO is not better in terms of quality of writings, fact, or in terms of acting, Joseph Morgan is fantastic but is not the best actor of the TVDU, fact and I can't enter into detail because I can't give spoilers. So please, do not give the reactor statements passed for fact, that haven't been checked if they are based on reality and on objectivity or not, because is misleading to him that cannot check for facts without getting spoilers and have to rely on what we tell him.

Maribel Humble

The numbers we see are for The Vampire Diaries (TVD). The first two numbers refers to the season, episode, the title of the episode then the number by millions of viewers in the USA when it aired on tv:All Seasons (of The Vampire Diaries) Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) Adults 18-49 Rating 1.01-Pilot 4.906 2.1 1.02-The Night of the Comet 3.775 1.6 1.03-Friday Night Bites 3.797 1.7 1.04-Family Ties 3.999 1.6 1.05-You're Undead to Me 3.522 1.7 1.06-Lost Girls 3.877 1.8 1.07-Haunted 4.184 2.0 1.08-162 Candles 4.090 1.9 1.09-History Repeating 4.104 1.9 1.10-The Turning Point 3.567 1.6 1.11-Bloodlines 3.676 1.6 1.12-Unpleasantville 3.702 1.8 1.13-Children of the Damned 3.992 1.9 1.14-Fool Me Once 3.513 1.5 1.15-A Few Good Men 3.333 1.6 1.16-There Goes the Neighborhood 2.799 1.3 1.17-Let The Right One In 3.476 1.6 1.18-Under Control 3.152 1.6 1.19-Miss Mystic Falls 3.329 1.6 1.20-Blood Brothers 3.393 1.6 1.21-Isobel 3.312 1.6 1.22-Founder's Day 3.471 1.7 2.01–The Return 3.361 1.6 2.02–Brave New World 3.012 1.4 2.03-Bad Moon Rising 3.559 1.6 2.04–Memory Lane 3.183 1.5 2.05–Kill or Be Killed 3.473 1.6 2.06–Plan B 3.624 1.7 2.07–Masquerade 3.546 1.7 2.08–Rose 3.633 1.6 2.09–Katerina 3.495 1.6 2.10-The Sacrifice 3.457 1.5 2.11-By the Light of the Moon 3.156 1.3 2.12-The Descent 3.330 1.6 2.13-Daddy Issues 3.217 1.5 2.14-Crying Wolf 2.793 1.3 2.15-The Dinner Party 3.072 1.4 2.16-The House Guest 2.984 1.3 2.17-Know Thy Enemy 2.730 1.2 2.18-The Last Dance 2.805 1.3 2.19-Klaus (Episode) 2.700 1.2 2.20-The Last Day 2.679 1.2 2.21-The Sun Also Rises 2.840 1.3 2.22-As I Lay Dying 2.860 1.4 3.01-The Birthday 3.100 1.5 3.02-The Hybrid 2.490 1.2 3.03-The End of the Affair 2.740 1.3 3.04-Disturbing Behavior 2.630 1.2 3.05-The Reckoning 2.810 1.4 3.06-Smells Like Teen Spirit 2.850 1.4 3.07-Ghost World 3.154 1.5 3.08-Ordinary People 3.340 1.6 3.09-Homecoming 3.330 1.4 3.10-The New Deal 3.320 1.5 3.11-Our Town 2.860 1.2 3.12-The Ties That Bind 2.718 1.1 3.13-Bringing Out The Dead 2.740 1.2 3.14-Dangerous Liaisons 3.080 1.3 3.15-All My Children 2.920 1.4 3.16-1912 2.650 1.2 3.17-Break On Through 2.730 1.3 3.18-The Murder of One 2.440 1.2 3.19-Heart of Darkness 2.210 1.0 3.20-Do Not Go Gentle 2.232 1.1 3.21-Before Sunset 2.540 1.2 3.22-The Departed 2.530 1.2 4.01-Growing Pains 3.180 1.6 4.02-Memorial 2.910 1.3 4.03-The Rager 2.870 1.3 4.04-The Five 3.270 1.5 4.05-The Killer 3.020 1.5 4.06-We All Go a Little Mad Sometimes 2.840 1.3 4.07-My Brother's Keeper 2.860 1.4 4.08-We'll Always Have Bourbon Street 2.420 1.2 4.09-O Come, All Ye Faithful 2.810 1.3 4.10-After School Special 2.950 1.4 4.11-Catch Me If You Can 2.710 1.3 4.12-A View to a Kill 2.570 1.3 4.13-Into the Wild 2.500 1.1 4.14-Down the Rabbit Hole 2.310 1.0 4.15-Stand By Me 2.910 1.3 4.16-Bring It On 2.410 1.1 4.17-Because the Night 2.650 1.3 4.18-American Gothic 2.460 1.2 4.19-Pictures of You 2.140 1.0 4.20- The Originals 2.240 1.0 4.21-She's Come Undone 2.170 1.0 4.22-The Walking Dead 2.280 1.0 4.23-Graduation 2.240 1.1 5.01-I Know What You Did Last Summer 2.590 1.2 5.02-True Lies 2.140 1.0 5.03-Original Sin 2.930 1.3 5.04-For Whom the Bell Tolls 2.630 1.3 5.05-Monster's Ball 2.070 0.9 5.06-Handle with Care 2.590 1.3 5.07-Death and the Maiden 2.720 1.3 5.08-Dead Man on Campus 2.900 1.3 5.09-The Cell 2.360 1.0 5.10-Fifty Shades of Grayson 2.440 1.1 5.11-500 Years of Solitude 2.720 1.2 5.12-The Devil Inside 2.420 1.1 5.13-Total Eclipse of the Heart 2.160 0.9 5.14-No Exit 2.030 0.9 5.15-Gone Girl 2.190 1.0 5.16-While You Were Sleeping 2.280 1.1 5.17-Rescue Me 1.730 0.8 5.18-Resident Evil 1.660 0.7 5.19-Man on Fire 1.810 0.8 5.20-What Lies Beneath 1.840 0.8 5.21-Promised Land 1.500 0.7 5.22-Home 1.610 0.8 6.01-I'll Remember 1.810 0.9 6.02-Yellow Ledbetter 1.670 0.8 6.03-Welcome to Paradise 1.830 0.9 6.04-Black Hole Sun 1.660 0.8 6.05-The World Has Turned and Left Me Here 1.580 0.8 6.06-The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get 1.590 0.8 6.07-Do You Remember the First Time? 1.540 0.7 6.08-Fade Into You 1.680 0.8 6.09-I Alone 1.490 0.7 6.10-Christmas Through Your Eyes 1.820 0.9 6.11-Woke Up With a Monster 1.630 0.8 6.12-Prayer For the Dying 1.470 0.7 6.13-The Day I Tried To Live 1.610 0.7 6.14-Stay 1.520 0.7 6.15-Let Her Go 1.410 0.7 6.16-The Downward Spiral 1.300 0.6 6.17-A Bird in a Gilded Cage 1.590 0.7 6.18-I Never Could Love Like That 1.350 0.6 6.19-Because 1.370 0.6 6.20-I'd Leave My Happy Home For You 1.210 0.5 6.21-I'll Wed You in the Golden Summertime 1.320 0.6 6.22-I'm Thinking Of You All The While 1.440 0.7 7.01-Day One of Twenty-Two Thousand, Give or Take 1.379 0.6 7.02-Never Let Me Go 1.399 0.6 7.03-Age of Innocence 1.195 0.5 7.04-I Carry Your Heart With Me 1.237 0.6 7.05-Live Through This 1.335 0.6 7.06-Best Served Cold 1.324 0.6 7.07-Mommie Dearest 1.103 0.5 7.08-Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me 1.314 0.5 7.09-Cold as Ice 1.178 0.5 7.10-Hell Is Other People 1.230 0.5 7.11-Things We Lost in the Fire 1.093 0.4 7.12-Postcards from the Edge 1.049 0.4 7.13-This Woman's Work 1.014 0.4 7.14-Moonlight on the Bayou 1.124 0.5 7.15-I Would for You 1.060 0.4 7.16-Days of Future Past 1.068 0.4 7.17-I Went to the Woods 1.034 0.3 7.18-One Way or Another 1.021 0.4 7.19-Somebody That I Used to Know 1.021 0.4 7.20-Kill 'Em All 1.045 0.4 7.21-Requiem for a Dream 0.901 0.3 7.22-Gods and Monsters 1.040 0.4 8.01-Hello, Brother 0.980 0.4 8.02-Today Will Be Different 0.900 0.3 8.03-You Decided That I Was Worth Saving 0.940 0.4 8.04-An Eternity of Misery 1.000 0.4 8.05-Coming Home Was a Mistake 0.920 0.3 8.06-Detoured On Some Random Backwoods Path to Hell 1.050 0.4 8.07-The Next Time I Hurt Somebody, It Could Be You 0.980 0.4 8.08-We Have History Together 0.950 0.4 8.09-The Simple Intimacy of the Near Touch 0.860 0.3 8.10-Nostalgia's a Bitch 0.940 0.3 8.11-You Made a Choice to Be Good 0.92 0.3 8.12-What Are You? 1.11 0.4 8.13-The Lies Will Catch Up To You 0.99 0.4 8.14-It's Been a Hell of a Ride 1.04 0.4 8.15-We're Planning a June Wedding 1.14 0.4 8.16-I Was Feeling Epic 1.15 0.5

Patpet

The beauty of a fantasy show is that you can step out reality an experience feeling and challenge your normal moral compass, stepping out in uncharted territory, since you enter in a different house that is not yours, and by doing that you have to leave your usual self outside the door and accept the rules of the house, that are dictated by the writers. If they are particularly good as in this case, they will challenge you to see things from a different prospective. The main goals here is anti discriminatory, don’t be so quick to judge what is different from you because it could be a good thing, or drop the hatred for what is different from you, because at the end of the day different could be enriching and even beneficial; all the various component, witch, werewolf, vampires, hunters, humans with their skills perform at their best when they combine their skills and work together. Also let not forget that this show is American, that they have the death penalty, we in Europe, don’t have it, so it is even challenging in that position, people that have done bad things sometimes need compassion too, because motivation, back ground, circumstances are a huge mitigator factor. So let get to the point of Damon and Klaus difference. Both of them have horrible fathers, that hate them, at the point that Damon was killed by his father and Klaus had his father chasing him to kill him. Therefore they are both insecure about their value, but how they react is very different. Damon has difficulty in controlling his emotions when treated badly and unfairly but never burden his brother or the people he loves with his traumas; Klaus has outburst of rage especially with his own family, when he feels betrayed, or when his status as feared original vampire is threaten or put to question, power is Klaus motivation because with power he is in control; Damon doesn’t care about power, Damon motivation is love, everything he does, he does out f love, for his brother, Elena, the people he cares, and himself because he is alone in defending himself from people that wants to kill him, and he takes matter on his hand to defend the people he loves and by doing that you have to get your and dirty and do what other wouldn’t do, what is necessary to survive. He does things with higher purpose, survival. Klaus purpose is to maintain control and power. I would say one is an antihero, and one is a villain. There are different categories, the heroes, Bonnie, Matt, Tyler, Alaric, Jeremy but heroes not always are right and correct; there are antiheroes, Damon and Stefan, living in the grey area, they have different degree of flawed and good qualities, and there are villains that are very flawed, some with redeemable qualities some not, but everybody is the hero of their own story. That is why the writers challenge your point of view, your prospective on things to be though provoking and to challenge your normal moral compass to find compassion even where you normally wouldn’t have think to feel it for a “monster”.

Patpet

And those numbers are only referred to America, TVD is one of the few show that is popular everywhere.

Maribel Humble

These are the ratings for the originals. We are given the season, episode, title of the episode, and then the number of viewers for each episode: All Seasons (of The Originals) Episode U.S.A. Viewers (Million) Adults 18-49 Rating 1.01-Always and Forever 2.21 1.0 1.02-House of the Rising Son 1.92 0.9 1.03-Tangled Up In Blue 2.22 1.1 1.04-Girl in New Orleans 2.23 0.9 1.05-Sinners and Saints 2.05 1.0 1.06-Fruit of the Poisoned Tree 2.03 0.9 1.07-Bloodletting 2.40 1.1 1.08-The River in Reverse 2.38 1.1 1.09-Reigning Pain in New Orleans 2.33 1.1 1.10-The Casket Girls 2.07 0.9 1.11-Après Moi, Le Déluge 2.51 1.1 1.12-Dance Back from the Grave 2.32 1.0 1.13-Crescent City 2.10 0.9 1.14-Long Way Back From Hell 1.83 0.8 1.15-Le Grand Guignol 1.85 0.8 1.16-Farewell to Storyville 1.73 0.8 1.17-Moon Over Bourbon Street 1.53 0.7 1.18-The Big Uneasy 1.52 0.7 1.19-An Unblinking Death 1.50 0.6 1.20-A Closer Walk With Thee 1.77 0.8 1.21-The Battle of New Orleans 1.44 0.6 1.22-From a Cradle to a Grave 1.76 0.8 2.01-Rebirth 1.36 0.7 2.02-Alive and Kicking 1.29 0.7 2.03-Every Mother's Son 1.27 0.6 2.04-Live and Let Die 1.31 0.6 2.05-Red Door 1.09 0.6 2.06-Wheel Inside the Wheel 1.46 0.7 2.07-Chasing the Devil's Tail 1.44 0.7 2.08-The Brothers That Care Forgot 1.26 0.6 2.09-The Map of Moments 1.41 0.6 2.10-Gonna Set Your Flag On Fire 1.52 0.6 2.11-Brotherhood of the Damned 1.74 0.7 2.12-Sanctuary 1.47 0.7 2.13-The Devil is Damned 1.22 0.5 2.14-I Love You, Goodbye 1.44 0.6 2.15-They All Asked For You 1.40 0.5 2.16-Save My Soul 1.25 0.5 2.17-Exquisite Corpse 1.12 0.5 2.18-Night Has A Thousand Eyes 1.01 0.4 2.19-When the Levee Breaks 1.30 0.5 2.20-City Beneath The Sea 1.20 0.5 2.21-Fire with Fire 1.14 0.5 2.22-Ashes to Ashes 1.19 0.5 3.01-For the Next Millennium 0.89 0.4 3.02-You Hung the Moon 1.12 0.5 3.03-I'll See You in Hell or New Orleans 0.95 0.4 3.04-A Walk on the Wild Side 1.07 0.4 3.05-The Axeman's Letter 0.97 0.4 3.06-Beautiful Mistake 0.98 0.4 3.07-Out of the Easy 0.80 0.4 3.08-The Other Girl in New Orleans 1.17 0.5 3.09-Savior 0.97 0.4 3.10-A Ghost Along the Mississippi 0.95 0.4 3.11-Wild at Heart 0.92 0.4 3.12-Dead Angels 0.80 0.3 3.13-Heart Shaped Box 0.87 0.4 3.14-A Streetcar Named Desire 1.07 0.5 3.15-An Old Friend Calls 0.88 0.4 3.16-Alone with Everybody 0.93 0.4 3.17-Behind the Black Horizon 0.89 0.3 3.18-The Devil Comes Here and Sighs 0.86 0.3 3.19-No More Heartbreaks 0.93 0.4 3.20-Where Nothing Stays Buried 0.83 0.3 3.21-Give 'Em Hell Kid 0.79 0.3 3.22-The Bloody Crown 0.85 0.3 4.01-Gather Up the Killers 1.05 0.3 4.02-No Quarter 0.99 0.4 4.03-Haunter of Ruins 0.93 0.3 4.04-Keepers of the House 1.08 0.4 4.05-I Hear You Knocking 0.87 0.3 4.06-Bag of Cobras 0.96 0.3 4.07-High Water and a Devil's Daughter 0.93 0.3 4.08-Voodoo in My Blood 0.85 0.3 4.09-Queen Death 0.84 0.2 4.10-Phantomesque 1.03 0.4 4.11-A Spirit Here That Won't Be Broken 0.89 0.3 4.12-Voodoo Child 1.01 0.3 4.13-The Feast of All Sinners 0.80 0.3 5.01-Where You Left Your Heart 0.97 0.4 5.02-One Wrong Turn On Bourbon 1.03 0.4 5.03-Ne Me Quitte Pas 0.90 0.4 5.04-Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea 0.76 0.3 5.05-Don't It Just Break Your Heart 0.80 0.3 5.06-What, Will, I, Have, Left 0.82 0.3 5.07-God's Gonna Trouble the Water 0.77 0.2 5.08-The Kindness of Strangers 0.86 0.3 5.09-We Have Not Long To Love 0.77 0.3 5.10-There in the Disappearing Light 0.77 0.3 5.11-Til the Day I Die 0.68 0.2 5.12-The Tale of Two Wolves 0.85 0.3 5.13-When The Saints Go Marching In 0.86 0.3

Maribel Humble

If you see the chart carefully, TVD had more viewers than TO. The number of viewers started declining for TO in season 3, episode 5. After 3:5, The only episodes that reached a million viewers were 3:8, 3:10, and 4:10 but afterward, the ratings for each TO episode kept declining. As for TVD, the rating started dropping in season 5:17 but not as significantly low as TO, nor did it begin with the high rating as TVD did.

Maribel Humble

Affirmative. The fans are scattered from South Africa, Africa, the Caribbean, the Middle East, China, Australia, and many more.

nennu

jesus christ i wasnt going by facts tho xdd i was going by every comment i ever see about people talking about it :D ofc tvd was more popular and won more awards but that doesnt make the show better? a lot of shows have high numbers or awards and a lot of good shows go under the radar

Patpet

Also the beauty of the writing is that they always give you the two side of the story that counterbalance. On one side Elena protecting her family her brother from Kol harming him and herself from getting killed and Damon. On the other hand Klaus watched his brother being killed in front of his eyes without been able to do anything because he couldn't come in. The rage and the tears in his eyes said it all. And also Kol is a spiritual character that hanged out with witches for long time so he is likely to be right regarding Silas and what if he is? They are all tempering with stuff they know nothing about.