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The Vampire Diaries S5E13 - "Total Eclipse of the Heart" - UNCUT (Patreon)

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2023-05-20 01:08:25
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Hoping to help everyone move past recent traumatic events, Caroline convinces Katherine and Bonnie to attend Whitmore College's "Bitter Ball" for broken-hearted students. Bonnie is intrigued with a fellow student named Liv, who appears to be dabbling in witchcraft. Tyler starts to worry about Matt's relationship with Nadia. After making a disturbing discovery, Stefan has a frustrating conversation with Damon and Enzo. Dr. Wes struggles to continue his research project with help from a new benefactor named Sloan. Still bent on revenge, Damon and Enzo resort to violence to convince Bonnie and Jeremy to help them, but their plan takes an unexpected and horrifying turn.

Comments

Melanin Ky

Love your thought process of Damon. These are the same points I tried to make in last episode's comments. We can judge him for his actions & recognize his childish behavior while also not discrediting his past. His actions can NOT be excused. Even Ian (Damon's actor) is perplexed by the loopholes people jump through just to defend his character actions. Joseph (Klaus) feels this way as well.

Patpet

Nobody is excusing his actions, but he is not good or bad because of Elena, sorry but I strongly desagree with that. He has been proven to be a good person way before Elena and Damon ever happen, since season one, Elena and Damon would have never happen if Damon wasn't a good person in the first place. He has been alone and lonenly all his life of which Harry still doesn't know crutial parts that explain his behaviour of lashing out, that is a seriously good reason. If people are telling him he is bad, all his life because of some reasons that haven't been explained yet, and are totally unjustified, at a certain point if even the people that should defending him from this false accusation, are betraing him and joing the nasty wagon against him, than what is the point of being his good vunerable true self openly. I don't think that is childish, that is freaking justified rage for being threated like shit, used and abused for all his life, for no reason but the fact that he has been unfortunatelly surrouded by nasty people, starting with his father and continuing with Katherine, including his brother too, that turn him into a vampire and put him in a position of having to deal alone with being in constant danger, when all he wanted was love. Thanks good Stefan can see it too, he knows that Damon isn't good just because of Elena. The only think that happent to Damon because of Elena, Stefan, Bonnie, Alaric, Liz, is that he is finally surrounded by a loving evironment of people that don't want to use him, kill him, abuse him, torture him, etc, so that he can finally feel secure enough to lower his defence and let his true self show, instead of being surrounded by nasty people that wants to crushing him. No justifying anything, but if even this loving environmet he so painfully took him 150 years to create around himself, turn against him and tell him to his face he is a monster and that is what they espect from him, he has the right to be royally pissed at the world and Enzo is pushing him too.

Melanin Ky
>>108940074

First, yes I believe Elena is one of the main contributors to Damon's redemption to being a good or bad person. Actions define who you are, not your background. When he's with Elena, he has his moral compass screwed on right but when they break up he's morally questionable again. Second, No one tells Damon he's a bad person until he makes decisions that would define him as so. Third, Damon decided to be alone.. why? Not because he didn't want to be a vampire, but because he wanted to be with Katherine forever and her turning Stefan was never apart of that. We saw in the flashbacks that Katherine was training Damon on what he would be doing when she turned him, no compulsion needed. It was Stefan who never wanted to be a vampire but when he unexpectedly fed he needed his brother so he wouldn't be alone. When you continuously say "but" after saying what he's done wrong is justification for his actions..

Patpet
>>108940074

Well that is what you believe because you have to justify your bias and character hatred. I don't, I see the show as it was written. and sorry kid, because I bet you are one, Damon didn't need redemption he need someone that showed him love and compassion. And again another extremely shallow statement that action define you not your background. Oh dear! Background is who we are, what happen in our life shape your entire personality, where and when you where born, your family, how they raise you influence your morals, your choices in life, your TRAUMAS define how you are going to act and react to whatever is happening to you, to what ever happen in your life and the study of all of it are called psychology and social and personality development. This show very is heavily written with psychology in mind, the writers are very knowledgeable of how traumas effect people and what are the reactions to certain events and traumas. Of course to you think Elena has to be the main cause of Damon "redemption", redemption for what? You have to justify your bias. NO Damon was good before, the entire good brother bad brother flipping is in place from the first season, but you didn't get it, did you? You took Damon bad brother and Stefan good brother narrative literally and run with it for 8 season, completely ignoring the purpose of the show. The entire Damon personality stand on the fact that he was unjustly called bad all his life, that he had to put a facade to protect himself from others to hurt him, and his development is him understand that he can be worthy of love because he isn't bad. But you miss that too. Again, oh dear! As I said Damon wanted to be a vampire ONLY for love not to be vampire and when he tough Katherine was dead he wanted to die, Stefan could have chosen the same but instead choose to force his brother into a life ALONE, meaning not being in a couple, in a love relationship, he didn't wanted to have, out of pure selfishness. Of course he was angry with his brother who could blame him? On top of that Stefan was going around killing founder family members, and having killing parties at home. Than if actions define who you are, what about Stefan, how do you define the ripper and what he did to the people of Monterey? That is not what Stefan is defined by, isn't it? What define Stefan are his psychological issues that make him act, react and motivate his action in a certain way. Same for Damon character. When I say BUT is to explain not to justify, I am not interested in justification but in understanding why characters behave the way they do and connecting the dots on how their life and what happen to them effect the way they are, act and react, what they say and how they develop. I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you. I have to assume you are a kid because it is staggering to me your very poor skills in reading people thinking action define you and not background!!!!! Which means you never go deeper than the cover, you never question anything you hear about how people are described by others because if action define someone that someone is condemnable just because someone said so. You have been very lucky so far in life, because you can't distinguish someone with bad intention acting all swave and charming, from someone acting not charmingly but being fundamentally a good person even if circumstances and nasty jealous people around that person are out to give him a bad reputation, you would jump on the bully wagon and never question anything because you based your judgement of people on actions not background. Are you one of those people slapping children around when they act badly, instead of understanding where their bad behaviour come from and why they act like that? Action not background....wow! Sorry but your posts are shockingly superficial and I don't care much for that, nobody cares much for that here. So if in the future you could restrain yourself from commenting under my posts it would be great, I can ignore yours since they don't bring any dept to the conversation here that is everything but childish, bias and shallow. Actions not Background.... I can't get my head around someone that actually believe that and live by it!!!!

Melanin Ky
>>108940074

Now I hate Damon & I'm a child.. typical lmaoo. I think you know well enough from my comments that I definitely do NOT hate Damon. You're a condescending bully who think your opinion is fact. I respect your opinions but you can't ignore the actual storylines and embellish on them when they don't mean half of what you try to make it seem. I stated what was relevant to show and now my points are childish and biased 😂😭😭😭😭 you've said that to almost anyone whose ever disagreed with you on here. HILARIOUS

Patpet
>>108940074

Didn't I just ask you not to write anymore under my post? Your childish stunts are not of any interest. And by the way I said that posts are childish and bias to post that are so, not my fault if toxic child-mind like are infesting this show like a plague. I rested my case already with plenty of evidence 2+2 is 4 not 22...Bye!!

Melanin Ky
>>108940074

Childish stunts? any rational person could see you got offended and defensive first 😂😂😂 Good day :)

Maribel Humble

For @ Melanin Ky Let us remember that Damon broke up with Elena in episode 10 and didn't go on a killing spree, nor did he do it several time when the circumstances were in his favor. So what is the difference now? It is the same situation back in season 2, where Katherine used what hurt the most against Damon yet again. To claim that Damon killed Aaron because Elena broke up with him is looking at the scenario at an elementary level. The idea of being a monster is what propels Damon over the edge because he believes it since he being told so all his life. If Damon were that evil, would being called a monster affect him that profoundly? Why would he care what Elena thinks of him if he is evil? As always, the perpetrator received the most backlash but not the mastermind, such as Katherine. I have said before that Katherine is a dark empath, one of the most dangerous personality types compared to psychopaths and antisocial personalities, because a dark empath understands your feelings and uses them against their victims, while psychopaths can't comprehend someone else's feelings. It doesn't mean psychopaths lack emotions, but they deprive empathy or sensitivity toward others’ feelings. Katherine has been using people's vulnerabilities to get the upper hand against everybody. It is worth noticing that Katherine's plans involve treachery and killing whoever gets in her way, even if they are her friends, but the Mystic Falls gang will do anything to save their friends, family, and loved ones. After reading the comments, I notice the importance of compassion and love for individuals who seek and need it. Oh but when they finds it, it is a treasure that shakes their foundation. Compassion is seen as a weakness, and the only love most talked about is romantic love among many in the fandom, but romantic love is not the only form of love the writers focus on. Agape, Storge, Philia, Self-love, and Eros are also types of love the writers portray on the show. If love and compassion seem so insignificant, then why it brought the Roman empire to its knees by the great teacher? People were starving for love and compassion back then, and they are still starving for it now. Another issue I have seen is how male transgressions are judged more harshly than females perpetrator. Females receive more understanding than their male counterparts do. The Johnny Deep trial was a high-profile case not only because of Deep’s stardom. It brought the attention that females can also be just as monstrous as males. It got the attention that men do suffer from domestic abuse and how many stay quiet due to being ridiculed by society. Johnny Deep took great courage to stand up to society's bias in domestic violence. Now saying that someone's background is not essential to their behavior is an obtuse remark‼️. The field of medicine, psychology, the military, detectives, finances, and even the fashion industry needs a point of reference to make decisions. They would never agreed with such statement.

Patpet
>>108940074

I explained very clearly why your posts are childish, the reasons why your absurd response post seriously out you like someone that is clueless about life, about psychology, about reading people correctly, about the show, and you only answer with passive aggressive technic to express character hatred like children do, and if you aren't a child is even worse. I give the why, the how the what and I support it with solid evidence that can be check, base on psychology that anybody caring for truth and reality, can fact check. But you aren't interested on that because your posts are based on anything logic or real, are only base on your very personal and restricted little twisted point of view filled with superficiality and hatred, hatred now turn into me because I outed you for who you are. I didn't got offended or difensive at all, your inability to read people is, as I said, shockingly childlike for anybody passed the age of 13. You just make statements that aren't supported by anything, but I am condescending, that is laughable, your arguments are only out of bias, lack of education and lack of experience in life, but I am condescending. Sorry but that is what your posts are saying about you. So you can put lots of laughing emoji as kids do, pretending that you haven't been expose for who you are, that is me, only me...Offended by you? Don't flatter yourself. Narcissists arrogant people always get exposed before of after for everybody to see and the funny thing is that by making them talk long enough they expose themselves. Congratulation, you just exposed your real self for everybody to see and cut yourself out of the conversation. 👌👏👏👏

Tina

Damon has hit rock bottom, he is really broken. Elena is not the reason why he is good, because he has always had good in him. Elena's belief in him and his ability to be a good person helped him believe in himself . Now that this has been taken away from him, his darkness is the only thing he can rely on. It's terrible and sad but he will always embrace the light and dark sides of himself no matter what and he will learn and grow from this situation. I am firmly convinced of that. Damon doesn't have a hero complex. He doesn't do good because he wants to please everyone or because he's all about right and wrong. His strongest drive is love and he just wants to do the right thing for the people he loves in his sometimes stubborn way. Since we saw what happened to Damon during his time with Augustine, you can imagine what that did to his psyche. The demons from that time will always be a part of him. The memories of that terrible time can't just be erased. I also believe that his disappointment that Stephan didn't miss him and help him for those 5 years goes deeper than he admits. Finally, I like the Stephan who loves his brother and admits it openly. After so many seasons he can finally admit that he needs and misses his brother.

Patpet

By the way, we have been shown how Katherine is manipulative and how does it feels to be manipulated by her, so all of the sudden we forget the lesson and we agree with her about Damon???If there is anything certain is that everything that Katherine said should give us the big red loud signal that the truth is on the opposite side of what she said.

Tina
>>108989421

I agree with you completely. We all know that Katherine played the Salvatore brothers against each other for a long time. That she turned the brothers against each other. That she made the brothers hate each other. She used the brothers like playthings. She is not a kind, loving, caring and trustworthy woman. She cannot and must not be trusted. We've known all this for many seasons!!!!! So I am surprised that suddenly everything that comes out of her mouth is accepted and believed as truth. Actually, I'm not surprised, I'm just shocked.

Maribel Humble
>>108989421

What pissed me the most about this episode is how Katherine’s atrocities are ignored. It was hard to watch. Why can females get away with their evil deeds, but males are judged so severely in this case Tyler and Damon?

Maribel Humble

Comment Written by Newmoon: “In order to fully understand Damon character in these couple of episodes, we have to pay a close attention to his facial expressions when ever he’s around Enzo and when he’s around other characters like Stefan, Bonnie and Caroline , Damon is trying so hard to convince others and even himself that he’s a monster and that he’s enjoying what he’s doing but is he really enjoying it? Whenever he’s around Stefan and Caroline or Bonnie, Damon’s is putting up this facade on the front of that he’s enjoying going back to his old self but it looks very fake and out of place that’s why this Damon feels so different compared to Damon in season 1, (when his humanity was on a dimmer switch and before he gave in to his humanity completely), he’s come a long way since then, he’s not the same person as he’s used to be, he grew tremendously in these last 4 seasons and even himself was not aware of how much he has changed but he started to see it now, doesn’t matter how much he tries to convince him self that he hasn’t changed, deep down he knows it’s a lie but unfortunately no matter what he does, he can’t never escape the bad reputation that others have for him and Ian Somerhalder did an amazing job of showing the difference of how he is reacting to darkness now compared how he was in season 1 . Now pay attention to his facial expressions when he’s alone with Enzo, he’s not enjoying it at all, in fact he looks very bored and out of place like he doesn’t belong in darkness any more, now that he’s not around his Mistick falls gang to put up a facade any more, we can see how he really feels about this and even Enzo noticed it and asked him if he has a second thought about leaving home. After finding light and tasting true happiness, there’s absolutely no way the darkness have the same appeal for him as it used to, also on the surface it looks like Damon is going on a killing spree but is he really ?

Patpet

To add to the conversation Newmoon made a point that is very important. In psychology there is a huge difference between adult tantrum and emotional outburst, and the difference is in motivation and who is damaging. Klaus have adult tantrum, because he aim to control people, to overpower them, to get to do what he wants, his tantrum don't damage him at all and it's his choice to have them or not. Damon's are emotional outburst, cause by several traumas, they are self destructive and cannot be helped, they aren't a choice but a direct consequence of traumas as the effects of PTSD are, you just have them anyway, without your conscious being able to control them. When the trauma is severe it takes long long time to learn control it, especially if you have no help.

Kitty Underwood

Damon was my favorite brother from the first time I watched this show and still is over a decade later, and I still think that people defend him way too much