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Another fantastic episode! Sad that Elena had to go through with the 'Damon wipe', I just hope she is still herself after everything

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Patpet

I am always amazed how mature for your age you are and manage to get the nuances of human emotions. Jeremy paying for Bonnie’s phone to be able to yell in her phone message box, every day is such a very human side of grief. I remember yelling in a dream to my father after his death and feeling angry to what I perceive as selfishness that lead to his death, I so relate to Jeremy. Elena, Elena….she is in a predicament, she doesn’t want to forget about him, but at the same time she feels she cannot live without him. It is understandable she wants to take the pain away to be able to function normally, but if I learn something is, never to take life altering decisions while in an high emotional state. I feel what she did is a less disruptive version of switching your emotions off. But basically, you are living a lie, because the amount of our experiences good or bad is what make us, is who we are, and you can erase memories, but the result of that experiences are still there, you are still you, but with pieces in your life that before or after will not make sense. As Jeremy explained to Damon long time ago, when he compelled his pain away, he erased the memories, but the feeling of emptiness was still there even though he didn’t know why. Th writers of this show are so proficient in psychology, nothing is present to us black and white, or easy, everything is in nuances, details, certain shades of emotions, and it’s all so captivating, allowing you to relate so deeply to the characters. You are just taken into an emotional journey with them, you are allowed to feel what they feel because of those precious details, like as you notice the sentence Elena is repeating, and how that same sentence change after she successfully erase the memory of her loving Damon, while Damon is remembering the same thing. It was sad and lovely at the same time to see their relationship explained from Elena’s point of view. I remember all of us telling you, when you reacted to that episode, how important the Birthday episode was, and if you go back and watch it again, you’ll realised how Elena’s body language towards Damon changed in that episode, making it clear, for the people knowing, her feeling changed. The details hidden in the show for you to discover on a second view are mind boggling.

Patpet

The dinner at Stefan house was hilarious, with Stefan’s so called “girlfriend” in the middle of it. I understand both Enzo and Stefan and what they feel is both very valid. Enzo is a soldier, he was imprisoned for such a long time and went through horrific tortures for so long that he built such an incredible toughness and resilience, that quitting to him is unconceivable, not he even considers it as an option. So, seen Caroline crying after Stefan saying outload that he stopped looking for Damon and moved on, just tipped him over, Stefan to his eyes is looking cowardly, selfish, weak, worthy of Damon’s hate. But he doesn’t know what Stefan is going through, and how much Enzo’s words wounded him profoundly because he loves Damon so deeply, he lost his big brother, and even though they had periods apart and fights, the knowledge that Damon was somewhere anyway was making him feel secure, he had someone that knew everything about him, with whom he shared his entire life, a compass. Stefan is like Elena it is very difficult to him to live without Damon. So, he is blocking everybody out of his life because the hurt and the loneliness he feels is real, he cannot bring himself to feel anything that is remotely related to Damon and his death, especially Caroline messages that would force him to care and he doesn’t want to, he can’t. He is living a lie too. On the other side, the banter between Damon and Bonnie is so entertaining and Damon dancing to “what a man what a man what I mighty good man….” They are so cheeky, they know we would agree, and that Ian/Damon is a spectacular “mighty good man”. Anyway it will be very interesting in the next episodes, learning what is going on there. And last, dear Matt you should be weary of who you are getting yourself involved with. Trip is a Fell, like Logan was, not nice people, a founding family vampire hater member of the worse kind.

Kitty Underwood

Yess I've been waiting for this reaction, mostly because of the final scene in the last episode and your reaction to that :D

Kitty Underwood

I know exactly what scene you're talking about in Charmed, and it is absolutely one of the best raw emotional scenes in the entire series

j-l

omg its my bday today and im not a big fan of my bday but this just made it sm better :) so excited to watch this

Maribel Humble

Harry, many of us agree that seeing the show a second time will blow your mind. Your experience with TVD will not be complete watching it only once. There are many details within the story, making it so captivating and memorable.

Malu x

literally the only thing i'm gonna say is i never liked a single treatment Stefan got in the beginning of this season. 1. nobody, and i mean NOBODY loves Damon as much as Stefan does. not Elena, and well.. nobody else. so the fact that characters understand Elena's grief and what she's going through but make it tough for Stefan to actually even grieve is so beyond annoying.. like i know it's a false life, but give the man his space, if that's the way he wants to live, away from Mystic Falls, which he should've done ages ago, then let him be for Christ's sake. another thing is Caroline.. actually two things.. i've always liked her character and i still do but am i the only one who didn't like the way she didn't let Stefan breath for a moment? i know she's going for that "let's stick together it'll be easier" thing but as i said, if the man wants to be alone, let him. he's already lost his favorite person in the world and you're blaming him and pushing your problems onto him? again, annoying. let, him, breath.. and "that" important thing. which, warning: personal opinion about Stefan and Caroline. first - their chemistry as best friends and "homies" was top tier and i hate the way they destroyed it. second - this whole storyline/arc screams "the main character is single now - give him a girl to be in love with" (even Paul Wesley to this day basically says he didn't get what Steroline was for) and i agree for many and many reasons.. third and (final, so that this comment isn't massive) - the first time this show aired and we started to get the memo that they were trying to put these two together i really, really hoped they would do it smoothly and i would see the change of heart in Stefan. from seeing her as his bestie to a love interest. but all they did was ruin characters for me. writers literally made characters push/pressure Caroline onto Stefan and that was so cringe-worthy to watch.. we all knew Caroline liked him always, but i couldn't for a second see it on Stefan, a simple fact that he liked her as a girl. it was more of characters going "she likes you.. are you dumb to say no to such a girl?.. go for it.. you definitely like her too you just can't see it.. and Stefan just looked dumbfounded throughout all of it, like he never even considered that. like what??? take a hint... single fact that Stefan refuses to/doesn't understand her flirting with him, confessing to him and always turning his back to all that in the beginning should be a huge symbol of just leave me alone but yeah again.. everyone just pushes him onto her or other way around and what can i say, i was rooting for a smooth writing about two of them cause i needed someone for Stefan, that actually appreciated him but after such not so smooth of a writing things just got ugly for me. but who's surprised tho cause does anyone ever let that man breath? be it romantic stuff or just mental and physical torture. thank you, thank you for reacting. yours are very much my favorite to watch. excited and looking forward to more!!

Patpet

@Malu x You are spoiling things, because at this point we don't know if they end up together or not, the fact that Caroline always fancied Stefan is obvious from season one, but at this point they are friends. Also, if look from Caroline POV, Elena erase her memory, Stefan moved out of town, and Caroline has nobody to grief with, she lost Bonnie, Elena, and Stefan also her home, and nobody seams to care, nobody is helping her in her research and she feels deeply alone and let down. So even her feeling are valid. Things are not black and white, everybody has a valid reason to act and feel the way they fells, the writers know that very well that is why their writing is so brilliant and nuanced, and their nuance are often misunderstood by the younger audience that haven't lived long enough to appreciate how life is complicated, complex, and the infinite implications to an event that are so well represented in TVD and that is why TVD is so popular, and resinate with people around the globe. I agree with you that Stefan should be let alone to take some times and some space to grief, because from the time Damon came back to Mystic Falls up until now, Stefan manage to get to know his brother better and to feel how important for him he is, and how good is to feel to be loved back so deeply by him too, by his big brother. But life is complicated and if want to engage yourself in true friendship, it comes with responsibility toward the object of your friendship too, that doesn't extend only when things are going great, but has to be there even when things are an absolute painful disaster. Stefan, unfortunately, suffer from codependency, and Damon loss is another psychological obstacle he doesn't want to face. Stefan doesn't do well without Damon, he feels numb and deeply alone. On a different subject. I would like to ask you please, to keep your criticism for yourself not to spoil the fan, or to influence the mood of the page or to drag down the expectations of Harry for the future episodes. The writers proved over and over again that they know what they are doing and unless you are a multi awarded writer as they are, or you have knowledge on how to write a very successful, long -lived tv show like TVD and TO, as they did, it would be courteous of you if you could in the future refrain yourself from dumping opinions of negativity full of unreasonable and unknowledgeable criticism, on the very exciting, enthusiastic, happy party that we all are here on this page. Please don't be a killjoy. Thank you.

Malu x

@Patpet Oh wow, with all due respect, i didn't expect you of all people to reply to my comment about negativity, nuances, one, single perspective and such. meanwhile every single comment you've ever written have been negative towards e.g. Stefan's character, one sided over "ships," which just overall irks me cause yes, this show is about so much more than that, good for you for understanding (i still don't see it tho from all those comments about stelena and delena bullsh*t). i read every single comment here diligently, cause i love reading people's different understanding of situations and above all i respect it. which you obviously don't cause you literally just replied to my comment saying, i shouldn't have an opinion the way i do. not to mention i think you just assumed that i'm a "young audience." how fun, i definitely wish i were haha. above everything else i want to mention that i don't think i've spoiled anything. i never said they end up together. you just did. i just said that writers are trying to have them end up together which is way too obvious and everybody since season 5 already mentions that. i'm pretty sure someone as objective as Harry can see that. him being objective and catching nuances are the reason i started watching his reactions. i've watched this, as one of my favorite shows, admittedly unhealthy amount of times and trust me, i've caught all that needs to be seen. wrote many comments and healthily debated with people on subjects, while never spoiling. it's one thing i really hate. i'm not gonna explain my thought process on Caroline. cause i myself said she wants to " stick together so that it's easier." but when someone wants to take his alone time, one shouldn't pressure oneself onto them. Now, again, with all due respect, cause i don't wanna sound like you did replying to me, i would love for you to refrain from replying unless you have nothing good to say, or don't know how to respect someone else's opinion on a subject. you said it pretty well yourself "unless you are a multi awarded writer as they are, or you have knowledge on how to write a very successful, long -lived tv show like TVD and TO, as they did, it would be courteous of you if you could in the future refrain yourself from dumping opinions." this show isn't supposed to have one's opinion only, and someone's opinion shouldn't be corrected with other's, which you just did. so, according to this, it's beyond my understanding what gives you the right to correct someone else's opinion. thank you very much, stay healthy and respectfully, have a good day.

Maribel Humble

Unfortunately, society tends to focus on the negative aspects of a man than a woman, and we see the same in fiction too. From the other characters' point of view, they feel let down by Stefan, but we, as the audience, see his pain. Is like PatPet said, each character's grief is different. I think Stefan's grief is a feeling of hopelessness and numbness. This grieving takes longer to get through. I will explain more later about Stefan's type of grief to avoid spoilers. For Elena, it is inconceivable to live without Damon. What made Elena’s grievances stand out was how she told Alaric about her journey with Damon. Her pain was palpable. I also love how Alaric conducted Elena’s compulsion. He did it with compassion and respected her feelings without judgment. Caroline felt alone in her grieving, and Jeremy was angry. All these types of grievances are painful and unfold differently.

Malu x

@Maribel Humble ,, absolutely agree and exactly my point. i'm not trying to think of Caroline's grief as something less, weak or unimportant than others', but just saying that none of the characters as of this episode, seem to understand Stefan's. not Caroline, not Enzo. Elena understood it a bit but she was in a difficult state to fully understand someone else's. everyone grieves differently. all i said was, if Stefan wants to grieve his own way then let him do just that. Caroline thinking that her way of grieving - together - is the way for Stefan too is a bit pushy.. if it were her coming to him saying they need to stay together and strong, i would very much agree even. but her, Enzo, Alaric even Elena just pushed him to chase the lead, and as we see it now, they're even angry with him for trying to move on and have some peace after 0 success throughout 20 countries as he says. nobody seems to understand he just needs space. as i said in my first comment, Stefan himself knows he's living a fake life but we've also seen that it's his way of feeling human and at a bit of peace. Enzo and Caroline quite literally barging in and ruining his way of grief, pressuring him into stopping it and returning back is just a big no for me. Enzo even telling a grieving brother, that he's a disappointment of a brother was just plain rude and stupid. i just imagine myself grieving and someone not giving an F about me grieving my way feels painful and as it seems this beginning of season, everyone grieves their own way, even Elena erasing every single moment of love towards Damon, but nobody seems to let Stefan do it.. as many times as i have watched it, i've never understood what the problem was with Stefan wanting to take a break. wanna chase the lead? go ahead. he's gone through all of it in as many places as possible. watching other characters' scenes with Stefan just gives me the absolute vibe of no personal space and it way too uncomfortable for me. thank you for this comment. great point.

Patpet

@Malu x you didn't even realise that I agreed with you about Stefan. And to add I work in the industry in a film and television production, for an multiple Oscars /Bafta you name it award winning company and on top of that I am a writer, I studied script writing with Robert McKee, do you know who he is? And I studied literature as a major at university. So I know what I am talking about. Also my boss and Paul Wesley are friends so you can imagine how much I hate Stefan....right? 😂. So with all due respect what I write come from knowledge, from my age and my experience. What the validity of your opinion are base on exactly? I bet this is question that will go unanswered. The very fact that you think I write what I write out of stupid shipping or bias is truly laughable, that is what kids do and what they assume others do, that is how you give away your mental age. I only put together the piece of the puzzle that the writers wrote and no there is no opinion or different interpretations of it. That is why TVD is different it doesn't leave ANYTHING unclear, or open for interpretation. Every scene is there for a reason and you have to understand why that charcter act or say things, why, when and to who and for what reason, what is behind their words, what is the body language etc. Or you get what the writers are telling you because you have the tools to get it or you don't, there is not my opinion not yours, there is ONLY what THEY wrote. So what you call BS about Damon and Elena or Stefan and Elena is what the writers wrote and what 90% on people here saw too, Harry included, but you are so concentrated and bend on your hatred on me, that don't even realise you just insulted 90'% of the people here, Harry included. 👌 You don't like TVD as it was written, your loss. Now we all know why you don't get it. Thank you for making my point very clear. And by the way, did I teach you a new word "nuance" that is why you are using it? 😂 You are welcome.

HeatherB

I love watching Harry's reactions and maybe he needs to give his own opinion on the nastiness coming out here. I don't like it and I'm sure a lot of other people watching don't like it either. It's fine to have an opinion and to express it as it relates only to the episode at hand and prior episodes, not spoiling future episodes for those who have not seen it already. As for Damon/Stefan, some like one more than the other and that is okay. It's their choice. It is also fine to disagree and RESPECTFULLY say so and state your reasoning. Please try to keep it friendly as there is more than enough hostility on the net without getting into it here. Thanks.

Patpet

Amen, it is not nice to be the target of haters/spoilers/killjoy people that like to target you because you are objective about characters and tell it as it is, as it was written and have the knowledge to understand what is going on, on multiple levels and they have to lower the conversation to a level that so disrespectful, for no reason at all but pure nastiness and attention seeking.

HeatherB

Hi Patpet. Thank you for responding. I read your comments on all of the TVD episode reactions and enjoy your point of view. It's always interesting to see how others perceive the show.

Patpet

Thank you HeatherB, I try to use my knowledge and experience to bring out the point that many people miss because TVD is so incredibly complex, that you have to watch it multiple times to get what the writers wanted to say and how they say it. I love that they don't patronise the audience but they expect from us to be smart, to get it, to connect the dots with all the tiny details they sprinkle in every episode that if have just a superficial look you miss. I don't think this is a show for kids, because is much too much complicated to understand. It's like when you learn a new language, you learn a new word and all of the sudden you see that new word everywhere. But before you didn't even notice it existed. That what is happening here with TVD, kids do not have the tool, to get all that there is there, because they haven't leave long enough to understand certain things, to notice certain things, and to see them clearly. That is why there is so much confusion and nastiness, because also kids don't not like to be told they are wrong and don't have the maturity to be able and to listen to people that know more than they do and be grateful that someone teach you something new, or put you in a position to question your certainties, or make you see things from a different POV substantiating it with fact and solid arguments. That is how you open and interesting, civil and intellectual conversation about it, that we are having on Harry's page, because Harry is a very smart person , with the unfortunate here and there interference of little nasty attention seekers, that don't get the show, don't know how to be civil. don't know how to be respectful of people much older than them therefore much more knowledgable, and that like to spoil the fun by making negative criticism on the writers, like they know better. It si unfortunate that Patreon don't have the block option. The story of one reactor, I can't remember her name, It's a caution tale. She was very smart and very knowledgable about writing, and at the beginning she had a very good follower number for a beginner. Than she decide to open a discord, and invite people there because she was on "Buy me a Coffe". 4 or 5 kids took over the situation bullying everybody else into leaving, hammering the discord with constant negativity against the writers, against certain characters, relentless negative comments, hundreds, episode after episode, that necessarily effect the reactions, the enjoyment, the looking forward to the next episode, dump her enthusiasm, at the point that she went from an over thousand viewers on youtube on the first episodes, to barely 200 further down the lane. I tried to warn her about the nastiness of those people intentions, I tried to fight it, but she wouldn't listen so I left, and I saw that she just quitted she didn't finish to react to the show. That is because of the nasty attention seekers that don't care about the reactor, the community and the atmosphere that we should create in order for everybody to enjoy what we pay for and to keep Harry's enthusiasm up in order to enjoying the show as we do. Those are the same type of fanatics the where nasty with Ian's wife, the character haters, negative toxic people that don't like others having fun and they have to spoil it.

Malu x

@Patpet First of all, thanks for making me realize this is not a healthy and a safe space to comment. i look forward to staying here to just simply watch Harry's reactions. i do find his opinions very objective and good to hear. i'm not gonna quit subscribing just for this. Again, nothing but negativity and a comment full of insults and assumptions. as i said, "refrain from replying, unless you have nothing good to say, or don't know how to respect someone else's opinion on a subject." guess you couldn't. I would love to answer any and every question that you just asked but i can't really do that for someone that asks: What the validity of my opinion is based on exactly. everyone has their opinions, especially on a fictional show and there are no valid or invalid opinions. writers write and producers produce stuff exactly for people to have their opinions and interpretations on subjects. you could 100% correct me if i stated something that was not factual but correcting someone else's opinion? that's definitely a first time hearing for me, i didn't think there had to be solely one, especially on something as simple as ships, when there are better subjects in the show like brotherhood and friendship, other than the racist television producer's biased love triangles that she puts 90% of in the show. I was gonna be upset about all the insults and you talking about the "mental age" but i couldn't really be upset after reading this. i don't know how old you are and i don't wanna assume as you assumed i was young but anyone who writes stuff like this - "And by the way, did I teach you a new word "nuance" that is why you are using it? 😂 You are welcome." - can't talk about anyone else's mental age. didn't know "nuance" was a big word rarely known to people )). I did indeed realize that you agreed on a Stefan subject, i'm not sure i disagreed anywhere. Congratulations on all the achievements in life, experience and knowledge. good for you honestly. i'm quite happy about people achieving their goals. i hope you achieve even more. i will refrain from continuing this "debate," cause i don't find it healthy at all. it's quite tiring debating with someone that just replies with "who they are" and "why someone else is wrong and they're right." thank you again and all the love.

Malu x

i also love the fact that i was seen and agreed on as a hater/spoiler/killjoy, while i didn't do any of it and just wanted to write my honest opinion like everyone else is doing so. meanwhile nobody even acknowledged i was being insulted in every single comment while also saying that there is more than enough hostility on the net. all this is simply hilarious. thank you again and again haha..

HeatherB

Hi Patpet, I didn't used to comment at all because I saw how disrespectful some people online can be and many feel they have to attack someone who doesn't share their point of view. I loved Damon from 'Hello, brother," in the pilot episode and thought Stefan was kind of dull and creepy stalker dude the way he'd just show up, but I can respect that others hate Damon and love Stefan and would never try to tell them they were wrong. I won't say that it's always younger people who are less knowledgeable about the show or are unable to take constructive criticism of a character or accept help in understanding some aspects of the show. Many older people can be just as toxic. I found that even after viewing this entire series 7 times I still picked up little things and references to earlier episodes that I didn't grasp fully the first time around. The writers certainly made it complex and I think that is a huge part of what keeps it fresh and interesting. I have started to watch The Originals with an overseas friend. We start our players at the same time and discuss on Skype as we watch, as we did twice with TVD. She also wants to watch TVD again. I found, however, that despite loving the original family on TVD, I can't really get into TO. We are on Season 2 and I will finish watching it but it's not something I would probably watch a second time. Having said that I know many people feel TO is a better show and that's fine. I just can't get invested in the other characters the same way I could on TVD. I think for me it just comes down to TVD being fast paced and advancing the story, keeping the characters interesting (most of them anyway). I loved the relationship ups and downs between Damon and Stefan throughout the show and how some of those I disliked early on became more interesting later. I love watching Harry's reactions to this show and enjoy his comments. I've watched some other reactors too and it always amazes me when people comment and say 'don't talk over things or stop pausing to talk'. The reason we watch is to hear their opinions and because we love seeing someone watch TVD for the first time, not just to rewatch the show again. Agree with you about keeping the atmosphere pleasant for all so that Harry can also enjoy reading the comments and not be put off doing that by negativity. He does a lot of work to bring these videos to us for our enjoyment and I for one appreciate it.

Patpet

I agree with you on TO 100% it doesn't have the rewatchability factor that TVD has. That is because the writers were doing two shows at the same times and one of them had to simpler, more plain linear in struct, and more restricted in the topic explored. It is not by chance that TVD won 37 Awards and TO none and that the only award Joseph Morgan won was when he was in TVD. TVD has a complexity that I have never see in any other shows. It's a big jigsaw puzzle in the centre with a circular storyline that connects the pieces of the puzzle as it proceed in the timeline. Once you have all the thousand pieces of this extremely intricate puzzle, and watch it again all the infinite details that were sprinkled here and there assume another meaning. Every action, reaction done by the characters every speech they make assume another meaning it is clearer in purpose. It's like a veil dropping...."ahhh that is why he did that" or "that is why he said that" it is a continuous discovery. That is why I firmly believe that this show was badly marketed because it's too complex for people of young age because it is impossible for them to get this level of complexity. That is why there so much confusion and animosity about TVD and there is none about TO because there is nothing to understand there and there is everything to understand here. Young people, with few exceptions, don't have the tools to get it and of top of that they have an immature approach they don't like to be shown they I interpret things wrongly and some of them attacks you viciously, because society nowadays doesn't help them at all in raising the level of culture, in critical thinking, in reading people correctly, instead send them very confused signal on what is right or wrong. Stefan character is one of the most brutal, unaware, self-righteous character of the entire TVDU that is not my opinion that is the way it was written. It's not like if said that outloud I say anything wrong I just look at the character objectively. That doesn't mean I personally dislike the character quite the opposite I see precisely why he is like that and fortunately he is like that because otherwise it would be a very dull character a goody goody with no sense of humour. Stefan season one is a creepy manipulator a liar that would do and say anything to seduce Elena and have her under his firm controll. Stefan season two is wonderful, mature, understanding less a stick in the mud. Stefan season 3 is very interesting, very dark, very layered, finally. And so on...but looking at Stefan character and seen a saint is like looking at the David of Michelangelo statue and all you see is a small p*nis. All the great work, the complexity, the layers, the motivation of this charcter where he is coming from, why he is the way he is, why he loves his brother so much is lost on a young audience the saw the narrative of good/bad brother at the very beginning of season one and run with it for 8 seasons without understanding at all that that narrative is there to be subverted and obliterated by giving each character layers and motivations. I don't believe there is much room for different interpretations of TVD characters the writers in this case are extraordinary precise. Every word, every action is there for a reason and they are consistent with the character psychological profile and happened to them in their life, it's a jeegsaw puzzle you cannot move the pieces they wont fit, you have to put them preciselly where they where intendened to be. If don't understand their design in their details and in the overall picture all you will see is the small p*enis and then you get attacked because you dare to say, nope there's more, motivate why there is more, and you get the classical response "that is my opinion"like that opinion has any bearing on the statue artistic value, imagine reading on a book history yeah according to random miss xy David of Michelangelo is just a small p*nis, same thing with the characters of this show yeah according to random miss xy Stefan is a saint, what that has got to do with what is written objectivelly, on it's meanning, it's purpose, it's value, it's complexity? 🙄 And don't get me stater on how Damon character is completely misread by some kids.