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The Vampire Diaries S7E3 - "Age of Innocence" - UNCUT (Patreon)

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2024-01-18 09:41:57
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Okay, way too many things revealed this episode but safe to say Julian seems like a massive twat

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Harry Allen

This might be the earliest I have ever uploaded 😂

Patpet

How much I love season 7 from 1 to 10....11!!! And we haven't got to the good part, jet. The heretics and their dinamics are so interesting. I can't stand Lilly she never miss to state on Damon's face that "her family" her "children" are the others, not him and Stefan. His responce to her maliciousness is adorable, apart from Stefan he consider Bonnie and Alaric "family", that is Damon's heart being broken by his mother over and over again and him not wanting to show her he is hurt and finding confort in the people that actually appreciate him and love him as he does.

Patpet

To answer to your question about Stefan and Damon, but especially Damon being seriously loaded. Their family is like the other founding families they were rich back then and apparently the Salvatore family was with the Lockhood one of the richest. Damon as first son inherited all the properties, the estate, the boarding house, the busnesses and the money, he obviously must have shared part of it with Stefan. That is why his uncle Joseph wanted to get rid of him by selling him to that Augustine society, to get his hands on his money and his properties. Damon said that one of the reason his family was rich was that, among all other business his family had, they own all logging mills in the area that must have produced a luducrous amount of money for the area development and after the riconstruction post civil war, when all the Conferate towns, like Atlanta, were burned down by the Union solders as they progressivelly conquer the south. Plus I guess compulsion over the years must have helped to mantain the capital high. The Lockwood business was implied by Carol and had to do with slavery, therefore plantations, and they espand their land ownership by getting rid of most of the vampires in town, aquiring most of their property, sharing them with the Gilbert. The Forbes were a line of town seriffs, so they had the power....and....there is more but it is explained in season 8.

Elizabeth Gates

I will just add to the Stefan/Caroline discussion, it probably affects Caroline more because she DID have a crush on him at first. And Stefan's exact words to her were "Caroline, you and me, it's not gonna happen. Sorry." (30 sec clip) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8tqKFr3BTA

Hali

It’s never explained how Stefan and Damon made their money but because their vampires who can compel people, my headcanon is insider trading and/or multiple shares in highly profitable companies.

Kitty Underwood
>>127301052

This is true, she even cried about it later and had the conversation with Bonnie about how everyone always picks Elena. Elena told Stefan that it was just because he was fresh meat and Caroline would back off. So yes she did have a crush on him back then, but it was also mostly based on physical attraction, and also had to do with her perceived rivalry with Elena. However, it is also why she was so open to Damon initially, and when he dropped her off at school she said to Elena and Bonnie "I got the other brother" because it was a point for her in the rivalry, at least how she saw it

Hali

I love the title of this episode “Age of Innocence”, one of my favourite books (and a pretty great film starring Daniel Day Lewis and Michelle Pfeiffer). The scene with Stefan and Valerie on the bench where she confesses the truth while cloaked reminds me of the final scene in the movie - beautiful, yet heartbreaking.

Elizabeth Gates
>>127301052

Yeah, I don't think it was true love at first sight with Caroline in regards to Stefan -- definitely just attraction -- but I do think he brings up older insecurities that she had grown past in most other regards.

Patpet
>>127310715

Yes Damon mention it, the family, among other businesses, properties, land, the boarding house, owned all the logging mills in the area, very lucrative at that time to build the town and to recostruct after the civil war.

Harry Allen
>>127295154

Agreed, I am so invested in this season already, I love how each of the heretics have their own personalities that are being explored and haven't ended up being one dimensional villians.

Harry Allen
>>127296169

OH YEAH, I forgot about his Uncle was responsable but thank you for this list!! And ooooo you got me very intrigued about S8 now heh

Harry Allen
>>127301052

Fristly OUCH, that must have stung. But secondly my god, I hate looking at Caroline from back then 😭 vampirism made her a much better person bless. But yeah thank you for including this as I had completely wiped all of this from memory!

Patpet
>>127295154

TVD is good at this villains have their own reasons to be the way they are, and is such a treat to the audience to explain why a villain is a villain, because nobody, unless as Kay you are born with severe psychopathic mental issues, is due to how someone respond to traumas or to what happens to them in life. Being a villain is a choice, is the result of bad life choices, but in their head most of them they are still the hero of their own story. Basically TVD will spoil your joy of watching other shows with villains because you will expect some kind of explanation why a villain is a villain and hardly ever any show provide the audience with any explanations.

Tina

Caroline becoming a vampire is not a good thing. Also if it made her turn into a " better" person faster. She was 17 when she became a vampire, a teenager who didn't really know much about life yet. I'm sure she would also have changed for the better without vampirism. She would have grown up and therefore also become more responsible and probably more thoughtful and sensitive. I always find it unfair to say that the transformation was good for Caroline.

Tina
>>127295154

I agree with you, Damon is hurt because Lilly (I refuse to call her a mother) keeps telling him that she considers the others her children. I love that he refers to Alaric and Bonnie as his family.

Harry Allen
>>127381130

I disagree tbh, imo Caroline has been amazing at being a vampire from the get go, she had that one moment where she first turned (rip to that guy) but since then she has really grown into herself and never really shown a wanting or need to be human again. She would have always matured as you said but imo the added security net of being a vampire (in terms of being stronger, faster etc.) let her feel a lot more secure within herself and really allowed her to let go of a lot of her insecurities. I think there are plenty of people out there who unfortunately don't become the best people when they age and while I definately think she would have become less petty and more thoughtful, idk if it would be to the level that she is today but then again, no one knows that cause we never get to explore it (begging for a 'what if' season of TVD lol). That being said I do get where you're coming from, it is unfair to say that Vampirism is the ONLY reason she is a better person than S1E1. She definately would have grown as she matured, its just that imo I think she is the best version of herself in being a vampire.

Harry Allen
>>127381130

Also sorry for the paragraph, I love discussing my favourite characters and seeing different peoples take on them heh

Seb

I was a little sad when Oscar got killed off, somewhat because I really like the actor from another show, but also because we don't really have a character like him. There's been chaotic characters like Kai, Damon and Klaus but they're all psychotic. Oscar was just a normal chaotic dude who happened to be extremely powerful. He felt very realistic, would've liked him to stick around.

Patpet
>>127420079

Damon is not psychotic, not even a bit. Perhaps Stefan the ripper is acting like a psyco, asking for his victime names, premeditating his kills, then putting their names on a list, so he can look at them and relive the thrill of the kill.

Hali
>>127310715

Oh wow they were rich rich! Sometimes I forget the Salvatores were founders too

Maribel Humble
>>127381130

PatPet mentioned that vampirism doesn't change the person but enhances their personality. Caroline did have petty behavior as a human, but she did have her shining moments. For example, In season 1, episode 19, she convinces Elena not to drop out of the Mystic Falls pageant because Elena's participation was in honor of her mother, Miranda Gilbert. Caroline did apologize to Elena and Bonnie when she said things out of line. In episode 8, Damon tells Caroline that she is shallow, and it hurts her deeply because she sees herself in that manner, but being aware of that trait about herself and wanting to change it was a step to maturity for Caroline. She was the one who was concerned for her friends when Bonnie and Elena were fighting, in addition to Tyler and Matt. When Isobel’s minions caused Matt's arm injury, it was Caroline who made Matt and Tyler aware that it was more important to go to the hospital than act mad at each other. Caroline did have her virtues and flaws as a human, but she also had them as a vampire. Caroline was awesome in season 2, but her vampirism honeymoon stage was dimmed by season 3 and over by season 4. I agree that Caroline was more confident as a vampire than when she was human. I will comment more about Caroline when the episode arises in season 7, in addition to the letter that her mom left her in season 8.

Margo Unruh
>>127296169

Stefan & Damon were recorded as dead in 1864, so they wouldn't have legally inherited anything. But certainly they would have compelled/stolen their way back into their wealth in one way or another.

Kitty Underwood
>>127296169

Yeah they actually mention at some point in season 3 that their dad had an "illegitimate son with one of their maids". He is the person who the house, name and fortune went to after their father died, and carried on the family line. But of course, Damon and Stefan were always right there and probably compelled him immediately, and then continued to compel/threaten the family as time went on, so everything was still basically Damon and Stefan's

Kimberley83
>>127296169

Stefan and Damon share the wealth. They gave both said that, I think fans think because Damon is older everything got left to him and him only. The boarding house however went to Stefan from Uncle Zach after he was murdered. That’s why Damon gives it to Caroline stating Stefan wishes would want her to save it for the girls to be protected.