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Thomas Corp

You say that you had the snack, you had the few deep breaths, and that you are prepared to have the heart ripped out, courtesy of Star Wars. Makes me quote Red Skull, “We all think that at first. We are all wrong.” You describe well how even with anticipating correctly where this was heading, you still get hollowed out by witnessing the horror in this episode. Speaks volumes how you were tearing up as you were even before the full horror unfolded. This is indeed, as you said, a counterbalance to One Way Out. The heart breaks for Rylanz as he fully realizes the depths of deception that the Empire engaged in. Well sold in his confrontation with Karn who denies the knowledge both to Rylanz and to himself. Hell of a scene when he confronts Dedra, the strangling being horrific to see. She makes it clear to Karn what the goal was. This is about securing the stable, unlimited power from Ghorman for the Emperor. They’ve wanted this massacre. The chaos and carnage. And the more deaths, the better. Naturally, the Emperor is encouraging all of it. The butchery. Mayhem. Bestiality of every shape and kind. All to get his hands on the stable, unlimited power to perfectly compliment his UN-LI-MI-TED POWAAAHHH. (Damn. I keep doing that.) Amazing acting for Kyle as you can see Karn silently take in Dedra’s pointed retort, all while asking himself the important question, “If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?”. Quite something to see you clock the man at the hotel saying the famous line from Rogue One. The horror picked up in earnest. You have nothing to apologize for, Jess, when it comes to your near silence throughout, appreciate the shout out to those of us watching the full by the way. Something like this, it becomes powerful how quiet you become, and how consumed with the emotions you were. And it shows again how you’re better than me as the Empire’s atrocities here are things I’ve wanted to see Star Wars tackle for a very long time, and there is a sort of glee to finally be able to see it. You, you express the proper horror, dread, sadness, and you do it all so well. Shared reaction to when the droids were unleashed, the one lady’s death being very harrowing. And at some point, undoubtedly, Grand Moff Tarkin himself is going to stop by, and he will bring even further havoc and destruction. Hmm-hmm, what a naughty boy, old Wilhuff is. You note the smallest portion of relief that if nothing else, you know Cassian’s making it out ok, physically, anyway. Honestly, the sequences are tense enough to make you forget that fact for a moment or two. His fight with Karn being surprisingly one such moment. Before talking about that fight, it is a beauty of a scene when Karn wades through the horror. You made the remark, “You were a tool in this.”, and that made me echo what I said during that same part, which was, “It’s nothing personal, Syrill. It’s just good business.” Leads to Karn having a pretty damned badass and impressive showing against Cassian. I mentioned a few episodes ago that I was wondering if Cassian even remembered who Karn was, and sure enough, he has the “Who are you?” line, your reaction and assessment of that being perfect. Karn barely has time to process that, getting so far as thinking, “Who is this man? What sort of devil is he?” before he is shot and killed, again, perfect reaction from you. Now for the epitaph for our good man that was Syrill Karn. What shall it be? Needs to be something tender. Something sentimental. Right... Goodbye, Ferret Face. And that’s said with complete love, respect, and admiration, particularly as Gilroy gave Karn one of the best arcs of Star Wars. My brother said something to the effect that, “Making me feel proud and sad for Syrill was a nice touch.” Your own words were wonderful. You again prove that you are better than me in having no sympathy for Dedra, praise though you give for all the acting. Denise sold it so well how Dedra is making the futile effort to proverbially and literally choke back her guilt. I’m not saying that there’s sympathy for Dedra. There is, however, the human thing of surprising empathy of just being almost in awe of seeing the scene like Dedra had. Gets you too seeing Eedy crying. Ending with Cassian escaping with help from Samm, good note on how he took Vel’s scathing speech to heart. And Cassian leaves with a very familiar droid in tow. Leaving you with an eleven on the scale of one to ten of anxiety for the next episode. Seriously, Jess, what you had to say about this one was perfect, and the reaction was perfect. Thank you so, so very much.

Ryan

Pretty much everyone was making the Les Mis comparisons here, and as a big fan since I was a little kid and couldn’t follow the story at all, and only knew the music was awesome, I was drinking in having such a better representation on film than the 2012 one gave us. Apparently one of the several ideas for Cassian and Syril’s final exchange was a shout out to Bridge on the River Kwai with “You!” “You!”, bonus points for Obi Wan himself being part of the original, but they absolutely made the right choice going with the line they did. I’m still left with no idea where Dedra goes from here, but I’m really hoping it’s not a face turn. This has always been what made her interesting, so don’t rob her of it at the finish line.

Saltire

"This is so disgusting, obviously" - well two Sith Lords rule the galaxy just now, what else do you expect Jess! :D The opening line of the first film back in 1977 speaks about the "Evil Galactic Empire", we are just seeing its greed in action at the cost of all; just to solidify Darth Sidious's power, but as Leia says soon, "the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers". The imperial squadies arriving here are merely cannon fodder; the Empire didn't bring veterans as they know many of them will get killed here, so send in the rookies to play their part in this mess. The acting from the actor who plays the Ghorman patriarch, is heart-breaking. He sees it, sees the inevitability of all this, and that his daughter and everyone around them, is walking into a massacre, and as they fight for their lives, is all the excuse the imperials need to get the jurisdiction they are after to decimate this world. The music in this episode is great. I was sad to see the first series composer Nicholas Britell not involved this season, so the new composer has rejigged some of his themes. However, this one hits all the notes. From the opening scene where we hear the mournful notes of a requiem play, to the heavy strings midway through as Cassian wanders up the steps of the plaza, and Syril walks down them; to then his music as he is in shock at the part he played in this. Its very well done indeed. I like the nod to Casablanca as the stocky guy sees the powderkeg thats coming and doesn't want his side to start it, so belts out the Ghorman Anthem, unifying everyone and delaying the inevitable. Their last stand together. Syril finally sees he's on the wrong side and been played for a sucker this entire time. Its happened to better men (and worse, ahem Anakin) than him, and it won't be the last. He snaps though, and almost kills Dedra, who at least has the temerity to not deny it, and is also finally getting sickened by all this, and in herself, though is still trying to hide it behind them arriving back on Coruscant as heroes. She's beginning to unravel herself. And Syril for once is awake with his eyes open. I wanted Syril to make it, but I can't justify it really, and so he meets his doom fighting Cassian, and just as he's about to spare him (as Cassian spared Syril in the first season), he's killed by the patriarch. A needless, yet fitting end for a mesmerising character. K2-S0 coming in feels a bit rushed, and as Ryan notes, since this season is skipping through a year every arc, and wasn't going to run into multiple seasons as originally intended, then its a way to bring the droid in. A little nod to Rebels at the end as the Ghormans get wasted, where we hear a plea on the radio calling out for assistance, or to just acknowledge what went on here, just as Ezra did in season 1 when Bail, Leia, Ahsoka and Mon Mothma knew of it. More on Star Wars Rebels in 2x09. Syril's mum did love him, she just didn't know how to. He was what he was, in part due to her. His death is the death of a part of her also. Best episode of the season so far imo.

Saltire

I disagree slightly with your take Jess, that it doesn't matter - not at this time maybe, but within a year the Rebellion will have two minor victories with Lothal, Scarif - where Andor perishes - and of course right after, to which Andor takes some posthumous credit, the destruction of the Death Star. This is one of the moments where the galaxy begins to "strike back" and has enough of all this. And that with it still supposedly being a fantastical setting, that the good guys do win in the end (after a few tries!). Just a shame it doesn't happen so much in real life, which Andor seems to echo most of the time.