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Star Trek: TNG 4x15 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Dave Hampton

I am glad the first part of your reaction survived. At the time I first watched this show and for all of my life I have felt like Mirasta in this episode. I even felt prepared just as she did. As I get older and learn more, I realize I may not be as prepared as I thought though I still think I am. This episode brought attention to many of the issues if such a situation were to occur (or has occurred) but as I get older and learn more, I realize a situation like this is way more complex than it is already portrayed is in this episode. It would take too long to go into it all, but I find it fascinating. Last thing about the one scene you did not care for. In line with Ryan said we do not know what happened. I know you are more concerned with Riker even being put into that situation. Considering the stakes of a first contact mission I think it would be in line with what Phillip or Elizabeth would be expected to do in the Americans. You might not agree and that is ok but also note that Riker is a clever guy. Jess you should not read more for spoilers sake and anyone not wishing for Babylon 5 spoilers should also not read further. Ok the spoilery part. Riker was not feeling all to great here to be able to even do as he was asked and they showed him saying "there are differences in the way my people make love." I think it is likely Riker pulled an Ivanova from the B5 episode where the Lumati ambassador (or whatever he was) wanted to sleep with her. Considering the physical condition Riker was in this makes the most sense.

Thomas Corp

No worries, Jess. Illinois has felt like being in an oven lately. Better than feeling like being in a kiln, but still hellish. Shared suffering is all I’m saying. Can’t speak to the blotting, so you got me there. And both parts of the reaction were there, so that’s all good. Now to the episode. I had surmised that you would quite like this one. Poor Riker this episode. He’s almost a MacGuffin for the epsiode. You especially feel bad when Bebe Neuwirth went the Puccini route. I mean, you always figured that Lilith was into some freaky shit and all that jazz, but this is still messed up. KNEW you would hate that scene. I hate it myself. You could have harped on it more if you liked. The whole crux of this is the attempt at the first contact, and it is the big highlight how it’s largely told from the aliens’ perspective. Solid guest cast with George Coe as Durken, as Ryan notes, Michael Ensign is well cast as Krola. Great to see Carolyn Seymour again, and here she’s terrific as Mirasta, love that you quite liked her. I had joy over Dr. Berel. Although he’s not a major guest star of the episode, or at least he’s not playing the most prominent character, I still was overjoyed by the Broadway royalty that is George Hearn being in this, yelling, “SHUT! The FUCK UP!! HE’S IN THIS!?” Oh, I squealed with joy seeing George and hearing that beautiful bass voice of his. You observe well how we explore the differing perspectives, and the Enterprise crew is very diplomatic about it all. We share the reaction to Picard sharing with Durken the wine that Robert gave him. Loved your reactions to the discussions. My favorite probably being when Durken knows about Riker, Picard explains his side of the story, you see Durken takes Picard’s point and notes that he might have done the same. Shame he can’t talk down Krola. Man’s got some serious trauma from when Slimer went to town on his hotel, and clearly, it’s gotten to him something fierce. He is on Team Too Much, as you said. He tried to force Dr. Berel to cooperate, and Dr. Berel, he’s imparting to Krola the words of wisdom he heard from his dear friend, Nellie, who used to say, “Easy now. Hush, love, hush. Don’t distress yourself. What’s your rush?” Rather like how you had your finger snaps in response to Dr. Berel being disinclined to acquiesce to Krola’s request. Like how when relieved, Dr. Berel doesn’t get too mad. Makes sense as he has had his plate full, for instance, the matter of Norma Desmond’s fan mail. Plus, as he even noted, he’s not much one for affairs of state as he is the kind of man who knows that life’s not worth a damn till you can shout out, “I am what I am.”, so the politics, it really, doesn’t make much difference to him. He is ultimately relieved, so he heads back to his place of residence above the pie shop that’s very popular as at this pie shop, it’s there you’ll sample Mrs. Lovett’s meat pies. Savory and sweet pies, as you’ll see. You who eat pies, Mrs. Lovett's meat pies, conjure up the treat pies used to be. Krola tried going the martyr route, and it is great that he does not fully succeed. You like how Durken assesses that the planet is just not ready, and though Picard is not the happiest about it, accepts that. Helping is Mirasta gets to pursue her passions, like how you liked that, and Durken is supportive. We never do catch back up with the doc, but like I said, he’s probably set either way. And he has no vendetta. Especially as he’s very familiar with the sentiment that, as they say: To seek revenge may lead to hell. But ev’ryone does it, if seldom as well. As Sweeney. As Sweeney Todd. (That’s my last one, I swear. Particularly as, as I understand it, George is not back in any future Star Trek projects. Alas.) All in all, a very enjoyable reaction. Now is the first occasion where I’m going to tie into a Classic Who question you had some time ago. You queried about was there ever a Classic Who story on your birthday of Tuesday, third of May 1988. I saw some of the other fellas answering no story, but there is a novelization days after, and they likely were filming the one season premiere on the day itself. Said season premiere incidentally aired on my dad’s thirtieth birthday, I bring this up as I was curious about the question as it pertained to Next Gen. Was there an episode on my birthday. Well, if it was up to me, this would be the closest one to it. By that I mean that this episode aired on the eighteenth of February 1991, and I’m told that it was at or around the twenty-first of February that I made a strong effort to be born, which would have given me some good birthday buddies, though the ones I have are very terrific. One small problem was that I was not due until the latter part of April. Luckily, because my brother was born a month and change early, my parents were more prepared to keep me from being born too early. But if it was up to me, this episode would have been the closest episode in relation to when my birthday is. Instead, my birthday is in April, albeit earlier than the projected due date. Coincidentally, my birthday ends up connecting with another first contact, more on that one in a year, or maybe two, depending on your schedule and breaks, which I’ll endorse when you need the breaks, Jess. And I’ll mention this topic when we get to two other episodes to come. For now, again, terrific reaction, Jess, thank you.

Ryan
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Because I just happen to have watched the Rifftrax of Maximum Revenge yesterday: "Would you be afraid of being stuck in a 3,000 degree Dutch oven?" "I'd be afraid of being stuck in ANY Dutch oven." The greatest moment Sweeney Todd ever gave us was the opening of the 2014 show, where it starts out looking like it'll just be a concert performance, but then Bryn Turfel and Emma Thompson trash the set and rip off their formal wear to reveal their costumes underneath.