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Doctor Who TV Movie Full Reaction!!!!!! (Patreon)

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2017-12-08 07:00:00
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2026-06

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Paul Hayes

Yay! Downloading now, can't wait to watch it when I get home from work later. Thank you!

Ian Smith

OK,some answers to your questions (at least,as best as my knowledge will allow) 1) the 13 regeneration thing was established either in the 3rd or 4th doctor era. 2) the glowy regeneration effect is a NewWho thing.In the Classic era,the Doctor regenerated in several different ways - from a simple hazy effect,to a skin-peeling thing;to spinning off into a black void. 3) Jelly Babies are an iconic motif of the 4th Doctor - they were his favourite confectionary 4) Half-human. Oh boy!! This is so contentious - but it basically came about because the US backers (Fox) insisted that North American audiences would not accept a fully alien hero. Following the precedent set by Mr Spock,they insisted that the Doctor be half-human. The BBC needed their funding ,so they had to go along with it.McGann sort of plays it as a jokey thing - but the idea was never mentioned again,so best to completely ignore. 5) Why the snake? No idea 6) I have little knowledge of the further adventures of the 8th Doctor,because they happen only on audio - but from what I can gather,the Big Finish audio stories address this with a long long story arc,where the Doctor gets pulled in to a gradually developing war (hopefully,someone more knowledgeable can confirm this)

Bug Duck Energy

Omg, please don't explain to her! LOL As an attempt to revive the show, this TV movie was obviously unsuccessful, but as a piece of Doctor Who history it's pretty entertaining. They did quite a few things right but got some stuff really wrong. It's always worth seeing a regeneration, and the TV movie should be praised for actually bringing back the 7th Doctor for this one. Paul McGann is a great Doctor. In my eyes, heaps better than Christopher Eccleston, and McGann really made the part his own from 2001 onwards with the 8th Doctor Big Finish audio dramas. But it's pretty clear he's enjoying himself here. He's certainly the best part of the TV movie. He has gravitas, he's funny, he's dashing and he's the first Doctor who doesn't mind fooling around with earth-girls. XD Eric Roberts is fun, and a suitably evil and disgusting "modern" master. I don't mind that he hams it up a bit. Seeing the Master in full-on Gallifreyan garb is pretty funny, from badass to cheese in five seconds. I don't know why they gave him weird slime-powers tho. Grace and Chang? I have to admit i find Grace entertaining, but Chang quite forgettable. And Chang Lee has got to be one of the most stereotypical names for an asian character ever. The lighting in this movie looks sooo 90s made for TV, but it's really well shot. I like the dutch angles and the weird optical effects. Production value is pretty high, the Tardis looks amazing and the characters are good. The problem is the story. It's not great, and the ending with the Eye of Harmony and the weird-ass coming back to life because time travel (?) is confusing. Now, i'm one of those annoying people who accepts that there is no canon in DW and that continuity will always take a backseat to the story being told, but whoever thought that making the Doctor half-human for the revival was in any way a good idea was woefully wrong. It was a terrible idea, it's never mentioned again, it's not a thing, forget it. Nitpick, sorta: They used the Doctor Who theme song kind of... backwards. I actually quite like this version of the theme, but they have placed the bridge of the song at the beginning, as a fanfare. It kind of works for the huge DOCTOR WHO title, but it just makes the rest of the song sound a bit weird. Wow, i did not think i had this much to say about the TV movie. But then, it is the last "classic" story, and props to it for feeling like the first modern Who.

Steven Cooper

It's fascinating to see the TV movie through the eyes of someone who's coming to it from the modern series. It was judged fairly harshly at the time, since its failure to lead into a full series starring the Eighth Doctor seemed to put the final nail in the coffin of Doctor Who's chances of coming back to television after the end of the classic series seven years before. Now that it's no longer "the end of Doctor Who" but merely a way-station in the middle of the "wilderness years", I find I enjoy it a lot more even though its faults remain obvious. The decision to dump a huge pile of back-story on the audience right from the opening moments, even to the extent of bringing back the Seventh Doctor for the first third so we can see him regenerate, is just bizarre for a movie whose most important job was to appeal to new viewers. When Russell T Davies launched the new series with "Rose" in 2005, he took precisely the opposite approach - no back-story at all, we stay firmly with Rose's point of view throughout, and we only know (and only need to know) as much about the Doctor as Rose does. Information about the Doctor's past comes out only very gradually - the name "Gallifrey" wasn't even heard in the modern series until "The Runaway Bride", more than two full seasons in. Regarding the half-human thing, you can just ignore it. It makes no sense at all, goes flatly against basically everything established about the Doctor in the classic series, and went down like a lead balloon with fandom back in 1996. Certainly, both the Davies and Moffat eras completely disregard it. As for why the Master is a goopy snake, that's tied in with the whole 13-lives business, which you're now meeting for the first time. In 1976 (season 14 of the classic series), there was a story called "The Deadly Assassin" in which the Doctor and the Master clashed on Gallifrey - the first time the Doctor's homeworld was shown in detail, complete with the Time Lords in their outrageously campy outfits like the one Eric Roberts swans around in in this movie. (Trivia tidbit: those Time Lord costumes, toned-down versions of which are still used in the new series, were designed by future three-times Oscar winner James Acheson.) The Master (who was first seen, by the way, in season 8 in 1971) had to be re-cast, since the original actor had tragically died in a car accident some years before. So the writer of "The Deadly Assassin", Robert Holmes, came up with the concept that Time Lords can only regenerate a certain number of times (i.e. 12), and that the Master had now used up all of his lives, leaving him in a decayed and dying state, desperately searching for a way to stay alive. The goopy snake in this movie is an extension of the same idea. Of course, back in 1976 the Doctor was in only his fourth body, and the possibility of the show lasting long enough for such a limit to matter was not remotely a consideration... Even though the actual plot is pretty thin and not properly developed (especially the ending, with its inexplicable resurrection of Grace and Chang Lee), there's plenty to like about this movie, not least its lovely production design. Even after more than 20 years, this remains the most expensive episode of Doctor Who ever made, and the huge TARDIS interior is still spectacular. I thought Daphne Ashbrook was very good as Grace, and would have liked to see more of her. And the one thing just about everyone agrees on is that Paul McGann did astonishingly well, establishing a whole new personality for the Doctor with only about an hour of screen time to work with. I noticed you particularly enjoyed the "These shoes... they fit perfectly!" moment - that's the point at which, for me, the Eighth Doctor finally arrived.

Evan!!

I just watched this for the first time yesterday in preparation for this, and I didn't expect how camp it would be. Like, Classic Who is camp and New Who is camp, but this is a very specific brand of 90s American camp which I enjoyed very much. I had heard how much scenery chewing the Eric Roberts Master was, but I was pretty into it. His first scene is kind of bad, but he's a fun villain by the end.

Bug Duck Energy
>>8758464

You make me wish i could express myself more eloquently in english. Great stuff, Steven, and a fun read!

Ian Smith
>>8758345

I've always wondered whether the 8th Doctor is Classic or not. He wasn't regarded as such at the time;but he seems to have been retroactively adopted by Classic fans since New Who came along. New Who fans didn't appear to incorporate him into the revived era to begin with,but do now. To me,he sort of straddles the two.Is both...and neither. I like him a lot,though (and that's without listening to much of him on audio)

Dave Ford

And regarding your questions - I absolutely bet that the YT comments are spoilertastic - i'd avoid if I were you!

Ian Smith
>>8769116

Yes,they are. The thoughtlessness of some of the posters is truly dreadful,imo.

Firefly24601
>>8758701

I too, only saw it for the first time a few weeks ago. Also in preparation for this reaction. Its very... 90s. :)

Firefly24601

"What would Dr Who continuity be, without blatant and unresolveable contradictions?" - Steven Moffat