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Heated Rivalry Ep4 PATREON VERSION (Patreon)

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Susan AKA Maisy13(YT)

Oop, not such good timing for this one. I'm at work and can't watch this one until I get home, but at least I have this to look forward to.

Scott Crabtree

Even though they both obviously have feelings for each other, neither of them has really tried to put much stock into it and consider the possibility of an actual relationship. They are just hooking up and trying to tell themselves that it's nothing serious. For Shane, who internalizes so much and is so absolutely freaked about the slightest thought of being outed and not living up to his expectations from his family, fans and job, he gets through their hook-ups by telling himself that Ilya doesn't consider it serious so neither should he, they are just "curious" and having fun or being "bad". Well suddenly, Ilya asks him to stay the night, sleeps with him multiple times, makes him food, not only knows what his favorite drink is but has the Ginger Ale on hand and cold, officially tells him that he likes being with him just as much as any girl he could be with, then pulls him in close for a comforting snuggle on the couch while caressing his hair and not trying to initiate anything sexual at all. It is all very relationship coded and a little hard to play off as "we just hook-up". If you watch the couch sex scene again and listen towards the end, Ilya calls him SHANE for the first very first time in that extremely intimate moment and Shane calls him Ilya back and that is what triggers Shane. Suddenly realising that you might not just be heterosexual with a "curiosity", in love with another man, wanting that relationship to go further, admitting that you both have romantic feelings towards each other and the sudden implications of what it would mean for your family, image and career all smacked him in the brain at the same time and he can't handle it, freaks out and decides he has to run away and try to be "normal", like it's a problem he can fix if he tries hard enough. You get far more context from reading the book and honestly I really wish they would have had like two more episodes for this season because I feel like plenty of moments could have been paced out better to help establish more of the story beats that kind of did get glossed over for time reasons, such as this, which do leave some people questioning what the intention was or just what in the heck happened or why things are happening. That all being said, it's a fantastic season for what we get and only gets better from here IMO. Very excited to see your reaction to the final two episodes and how all these characters develop. Would also LOVE if after you finish up the season you do reactions to some of the interviews the two lead guys have done (and there are lots) so that you can see more of how they are as people compared to how they portrayed these characters, what their friendship is like and how they have managed what this show has meant to them and the public.

Roxanne 🇲🇽LIL CRIP🇲🇽 Kemmerer

Seems like you caught on to Ilya making an effort, or "trying to impress him" as you said, when he asked Shane to stay over.... the tuna melts, the ginger ale, etc. And even though the conversation was awkward, Ilya tried opening up to Shane as well by asking him if he's into girls. And yes, that couch incident was DEF more of an intimate exchange than we'd seen them have in the opening montage of hookups the last few yrs too. All of this seemed to spook Shane, with Ilya calling him by his first name, being the thing that pushed him over the edge. He instantly freaks the f*** out and runs right into a relationship with a girl lolol. I think Shane had gotten himself comfortable in their "situationship" just hooking up regularly and not letting himself get any more involved than that since the incident in Vegas (episode 2 ending). Ilya goes and pushes that boundary, and because these guys can't frickin communicate to each other properly, Shane freaks out and leaves Ilya wondering wtf happened. Add on everyone around Shane asking or pushing this idea of being with girls on him and its no wonder he tries to conform and dive straight into a relationship with Rose 🤦🏼‍♀️ But that club scene clearly shows they BOTH are just fooling themselves! I mean, Shane crumbles at the sight of Ilya with that random girl, and Ilya goes home alone despite going out to "get laid"! They do their best but end up having each other on their minds regardless. While its totally understandable why they don't, its so damn frustrating and sad to watch them do everything BUT open up and f***ing communicate 😖 While this episode was my personal favorite technically (directing, acting, editing, cinematography), it is a TOUGH watch 🥺

Susan AKA Maisy13(YT)

Well, it's pretty much already been said, but yes, Shane freaks out because they start getting close, more than physically and the first name exchange seems to have been the final straw. In the montage at the start you can see Ilya going from partying to ignoring girls at the club to text with Shane. Svetlana sure notices. I like this episode alot, I love the camera work in the club, as a former camera operator i loved doing swooping camera moves and something about the club scene strikes a chord with me. Also, i love that as soon as Ilya sees Miles, who he must recognize as a co-star in the X-Squad movies, his Shane-dar goes off, and he swivels his head and searches for his target. I like Rose, but Shane and Ilya have much better kisses than she and Shane. It doesn't mention in the show, but in the book we know that Shane has dated women, and even hooked up with a couple of guys, but they just didn't do it for him, I don't think of this as a spoiler because it's has not been a plot point in the show, and though I haven't read their second book yet, I surely hope it doesn't come into play then! In my mind I think Shane may be Asexual, I think it really fits his character, but I haven't seen any else mention the theory, but reading the book kinda confirmed it for me. As for super hero characters, I haven't thought about Connor, (Ilya), but I have heard people have requested that James Gunn cast Hudson, (Shane) as Nightwing, and looking at some pictures I think it would be a good fit. Now for some reason, I'm craving a Tunamelt for dinner. Can't wait for the next video!

sicxen

NOW I CAN SAY: COOL VID!!

Kris
>>201879544

That is such a thought-provoking perspective on Shane! It’s interesting to consider him through an asexual lens, especially since he describes his past sexual experiences as "disasters" before meeting Ilya. In the books, Shane often feels he must perform as the "ideal hockey player," which initially included dating women because it was expected. In the book Heated Rivalry his realization that he is gay comes after he acknowledges his intense, singular attraction to Ilya. While Ilya is bisexual and has many casual partners early on, Shane’s world is much more controlled. I've heard that some readers even interpret Shane’s lack of interest in others as him being demisexual—only feeling that spark once a deep emotional bond (or intense rivalry) is formed. I think that the show is a fantastic adaptation, my one gripe is the disparity in their casual sexual histories. The series depicts Ilya's 'playboy' reputation quite clearly, but almost presents Shane as celibate by comparison. This feels unbalanced and a bit unfair to Ilya, especially since the book gives Shane a more active, albeit lackluster, history that makes their dynamic feel like a truer meeting of equals. I've really enjoyed the Game Changers series! 🏒 I’m still working my way through the lbooks, but the stories I’ve finished have been incredible. My standout favorite so far is definitely The Long Game (Book 5) — I actually loved Shane and Ilya’s second story even more than their first in Heated Rivalry (Book 2)! Role Model (Book 6) with Harris and Troy is a must-read. The cameos from Shane and Ilya are a perfect added benefit. I'm really looking forward to the release of Shane and Ilya's third story, Unrivaled, (Book 7) this September! 📚

Kris

Shane and Ilya's post-sex naps is often misinterpreted as Shane sleeping over. They actually just napped together and had lunch. Before he was able to spend the night, Shane panicked and left because Ilya calling him by his first name made the emotional intensity and vulnerability of their connection too 'real'. I adore Shane, but I feel so badly for Ilya in this episode. His actions throughout the years clearly show the depth of his affection for Shane. He has consistently pursued Shane—setting up the commercial just to see him, pushing for the hotel room number, and being the first to add contact information. The three-year wait for sexual intimacy (intercourse) underscores his respect and patience. This episode highlights a significant shift in Ilya’s trajectory, causing his internal perspective to evolve. However, he remains a deeply misunderstood figure, with his true intentions often lost in translation. For example... Ilya's Accepting His Feelings: The opening montage shows Ilya's journey into finally accepting his feelings for Shane. Instead of hooking up at the bar, he's waiting for Shane's next text message. His most recent actions, like preparing his home for Shane to stay (by purchasing the ginger ale) in advance, were intentional gestures of care. Couch Scene: When Ilya discusses women, many assume he is simply trying to provoke jealousy in Shane. However, this interpretation overlooks a key aspect: Ilya is unaware of Shane's feelings for him and wouldn't assume Shane would be jealous. In reality, Ilya is opening up about his own sexuality in the hopes that Shane would do the same. Ilya is genuinely both curious and concerned about whether or not Shane is interested in women, and if so, whether he would ever have a chance with him. Ilya finally shows vulnerability and opens up for Shane to walk out, and proceeds to have a VERY public relationship with a woman. It's heartbreaking. Shane hasn't accepted his sexuality yet. His retreat, triggered by the use of first names (I wasn't sure whether or not you heard Ilya call Shane by his first name instead of Hollander for the first time), intensified the "realness" of the moment. This suggests, to me, that Shane was never ready for an emotional commitment, regardless of his perceived desires. Ilya's Jealousy of Rose: Technically, Ilya has no right to be jealous, but he’s grieving a profound loss of hope. Shane knew, per his conversation with Ilya on the couch, that Svetlana was merely a 'no-strings attached-friend with benefits' situation. Whereas, for Ilya, Rose represents a public, sanctioned partnership that cements the impossibility of the future Ilya actually wanted with Shane. Club Scene: People judge Ilya for trying to make Shane jealous at the club without even acknowledging what led to it. He went completely out of his comfort zone for Shane: By inviting him to his home (not a hotel room), asking him to spend the night (which neither of them have ever done), pre-stocking the ginger ale (because it's Shane's favorite), opening up about his sexual history (in an attempt to make Shane feel safe doing the same) Ilya was being uncharacteristically vulnerable. All for Shane to literally walk out on him. Feeling personally rejected and watching Shane move on so publicly, especially with a woman, was a massive blow. His actions at the club weren't just 'petty'; they were the reaction of someone who had been deeply hurt.. Okay, deep breath—I sincerely apologize for my full dissertation on why Ilya is misunderstood. I just feel so protective of him because people constantly mislabel him as toxic when he's actually so complex. I think my attachment to both Shane and Ilya has officially reached 'mentioning it to my therapist' levels!

Susan AKA Maisy13(YT)
>>201967442

I agree with all these points, and I would never think of Ilya as toxic. He is too considerate for me to think that. He and Shane have an understanding and I don't think Shane would ever expect that Ilya doesn't hook up with other people, but in the beginning I don't think either one of them is looking for anything more than sex when it's convenient. I like that when Ilya opens up to Shane about who he's been with, it's after we have seen he has grown tired of that life, he does want to get to know him better and spend more time together, but all that just confuses Shane and he panics himself into the arms of a woman. (*edited because I almost typed a spoiler, this is why commenting is dangerous for me, lol.) I will say I see myself most in Shane, and Ilya is definitely my type, and as an asexual woman that's saying a lot, though he's still not someone I would do more than crush on. He's far too young, for one thing. And I don't appreciate YouTube serving me recommended videos of a 12 year old Connor Storrie being just totally adorable after I've seen him in this show. I wish he would private those videos, lmao.

Kris

In this episode especially Jacob Tierney prioritizes visual storytelling over dialogue. His direction is a masterclass in visual storytelling, letting the camera and actors articulate what Shane and Ilya cannot . The following examples highlight his distinct directorial style, illustrating the sheer brilliance of his storytelling: Location: Ilya’s decision to move their tryst from a neutral hotel to his personal home is a massive psychological shift. By stocking Shane’s favorite ginger ale and cooking for him, he transitioned from a "hookup" to a "host," signaling a desire for domesticity. Symbolism: Ilya’s home is the only place where Shane receives what he wants without having to ask. Ilya’s decision to stock ginger ale specifically for Shane—a detail established in the book—demonstrates that Ilya is the only person who truly sees and accepts Shane’s authentic self. Communicating via Sexual Intimacy: This show, especially with Shane and Ilya, substitutes words that they are too afraid to say with physical intimacy. The sexual encounters in this episode, both in bed and on the couch, are extremely well-lit and intimate; they are considered in the "light of day," which represents total exposure. This is very different from their usual sexual encounters and experiences with one another. This level of visibility is especially terrifying for Shane, who relies on the darkness and anonymity of hotel rooms to compartmentalize his sexuality. Proximity, Microexpressions & Emotional Depth Jacob Tierney masterfully uses the shrinking physical gap on the couch as a proxy for growing intimacy, only to have Shane’s sudden, panicked retreat visually reset those boundaries. He also uses the camera as an emotional barometer; the 'unsteady' handheld shots serve as a direct window into Ilya’s vulnerability and his growing attachment to Shane. Williams and Storrie excel in these quiet spaces, using subtle shifts in facial expressions and body language to communicate Shane’s inner turmoil. A standout moment is Shane’s visible panic—a 'silent freakout'—triggered by the simple, intimate act of Ilya calling him by his first name. The Use of Fiirst and Last Names: The use of last names is a defense mechanism for both. When Ilya drops the shield and uses Shane’s first name, in a sense, he is asking for a real relationship. Shane’s flight is a "fight or flight" response to the threat of being truly known. Shane has spent years longing for a deeper connection with Ilya, but the moment they got there, Shane felt exposed, and it terrified him. The Club Scene as a Visual Turning Point: The episode moves from the warm, vulnerable daylight of Ilya’s apartment to the cold, anxious neon of the club. Jacob Tierney uses strobing lights and a "locked gaze" technique where Shane and Ilya appear frozen in time while the world moves in a blur around them. This framing, coupled with the music shift, signals their converging paths without a single line of dialogue. Sexual Sequence as Dialogue: The final scene uses parallel editing to show Shane with Rose and Ilya alone in the shower. The lackluster missionary sex Shane engages in contrasts sharply with the frantic, intense energy of Ilya’s isolation, visually confirming they are both mentally and emotionally preoccupied with each other.

Kris

Here's a Quick Timeline: November 2016-Shane Leaves Ilya's House in Boston February 2017- (maybe late January)- Club Scene

VioletMouse

The guy who is Ilya's roommate and shows him the article about Shane and Rose is a pro hockey player! He used to play in the PWHL and is the first openly trans pro