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HADESTOWN: Songs 21-29 (Patreon)

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2024-10-01 01:20:43
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6:46 Our Lady of the Underground

22:30 Way down Hadestown (Reprise)

36:36 Flowers

46:10 Come Home With Me (Reprise)

50: 10 Papers

1:03:41 Nothing Changes

1:08:00 If it’s True

1:16:40 How Long?

Comments

Cassondra Simmons

Its the end of day 4 without power because of Hurricane Helene and seeing this post makes my day better! Thank you!!!!

Emiii 🫶🏾

WOOO HADESTOWN!!! It’s been a really difficult month both health and school wise, so this is really a pick me up.

Anna Sofie

i saw hadestown on west end back in august, and during our lady of the underground, she turned to the audience when she asked “when was the last time you saw the sky?”, and that detail made it hit so hard

JR Hill

If you like If It's True, PLEASE check out Jordan Fisher's interpretation of it. It's his moment where Orpheus' innocence is shattered and he gets angry. It's so different from Reeve's version but packs a punch!

Anna Sofie
>>150997897

I don’t know if you’ve heard it but I wanna recommend Dónal Finn’s interpretation here too! I love Reeve’s version, but Dónal Finn’s interpretation hits me so much harder (especially live), and his version has to be my favorite song in the whole musical (there’s a small lyric change at the end too that I love). It sounds like Jordan Fisher’s interpretation is somewhere along those lines too, so I’ll definitely be checking that out now! I didn’t know he had changed it up too.

Beauxe

I still miss the original off broadway of “Way down (reprise)” Eurydice: “there must be some kind of mistake” Fates: “Oh it was a mistake alright”

Magnus Taliesin

Our Lady is a speakeasy for reminders of the living world <3 the "put a quarter in the slot, you'll get an eyeful" and "right here waiting in my pay-per-view" is calling back to like. Peep shows? ^^;; It's basically all the underground clandestine vices of hadestown, a little more about bits of life than sex and booze, but also sex and booze. Essentially the answer to "is it moon shine or is it moonshine???" is... yes.

Taylor Wong

I love "How Long" so much. It's the start to a conversation between Hades and Persephone. Orpheus appearing sobered Persephone up enough for her to actually try talk to Hades (instead of spending all her time in the Underworld drinking, since it's established that she became an alcoholic), but Hades isn't ready to have this conversation. What I mean to say is that he's so focused on making the Underworld into what he believes she wants, that he's not listening to what she's actually saying.

Amy Golightly

Papers (Intro) hit very different on the tour when Orpheus was a young Latino man (and a Dreamer IRL). So did "If It's True." Any time Orpheus is played by a POC, there's a new layer of chilling subtext, but I think it would be very personal to queer actors as well. Hades' suggestion of a drink comes across more as bitterness about how her alcoholism has contributed to taking her from him. I wouldn't say Hades *isn't* a villain? He does represent the worst of capitalism, after all. It just happens he does have a heart, if you can reach it. You will LOVE Chant II, I've been dying to see you react to it all this time. It's probably my favorite.

Taylor Wong
>>151001687

Looking at the lyrics, we see a certain despair from Hades - he says "nothing comes of the songs people sing," because as the years went on, despite how much he loves her and wants her to stay, she wants her space and to spend time away from him. And also also, if we think about the lines "give them a piece, they'll take it all... the kingdom will fall for a song" as referring to Persephone instead of the workers, we get Hades lamenting that if he listens to her, then he has to come to terms with the fact that he needs to let her go.

Tyler Cloar

No animatics on some of these songs is a crime, also in Greek mythology the villain is always the fates even the Gods fear them

Akumma

I think something else to note, with the immigrant allegory, Anaïs Mitchell got the inspiration for Hadestown after traveling to Central/South America and seeing how awful some of the impoverished citizens were being treated. Might need to fact check me tho, it’s 2AM

Akumma

Also, you GOTTA listen to the demo version of If It’s True from the 2009 concept album. It’s soooo much more heartbreaking and omg the whole album is phenomenal

PhoenyxFyre

You know, now that I know more greek mythos, I wonder if the How Long? If this has anything todo with Hades watching Zeus strip gods like Apollo and Poseidon of their immortality and seeing how humans have treated them. Or if this is just a representation of Hades always finding the worst of humanity in Hadestown, as those like Orpheus would go to the place Persephone made in the Underworld (forgot what its called, think it starts with E) but if Hades is always getting the worst of Humanity and not seeing the best to offset how bad we can be as humans. No wonder his view is skewed in this whole musical. I doubt any God or Goddess who had to deal with those unbefitting of that better place in the underworld would be able to stay unbiased and not let it affect them or their relationships. All the other Gods and Goddesses at least get to see all the different versions of humanity. I think after all these I feel more pity for this God. I kind of wish him and Zeus could switch jobs. Though idk if I'd want Zeus in this job, but Hades deserves time on the surface like Persephone.

Nashira Sidus

Way down Hadestown Reprise — when it says that they forget their memories, it’s a reference to the river Lethe, boarded Elysium within Hades. It’s the river of forgetfulness. Quote from Wiki, “The shades of the dead were required to drink the waters of the Lethe in order to forget their earthly life. In the Aeneid (VI.703-751), Virgil writes that it is only when the dead have had their memories erased by the Lethe that they may be reincarnated”

Ryan Tjarks

I disagree with the view that Hades is full of hate and views people as worthless. His “Logic of Kings” (or CEOs) is that those who work for him are truly the lucky ones, having all their basic needs met and given a place in a “great purpose”. It’s more ephemeral things like songs and emotions he sees no value in and doesn’t realize that stripping these away from his subjects dehumanizes them. He “loves” Persephone and his subjects in his own way, but his mindset has made him isolated and warped his love into greed. He views things like pity and sentimentality as obstacles, stopping the gears of his machinery moving forward with his grand designs.

Eliška Svobodová

"our lady of ways, our lady of means" as I always interpreted it, is referencing what she literally provides - ways to escape (metaphorically), means to enjoy. Whether they be drugs or supernatural ways to access things from the overworld, that's what she brings and lords over within Hadestown

Eliška Svobodová

"why do I keep having hope" well, that's the thing, isn't it. maybe this time it won't end that way? it will, but maybe it won't this time?

Bean of Glory
>>151006905

Nothing frightens me so much for the world as the path and the patterns that we all seem locked into - represented in Greek myth by the thread-spinning Fates.

Bean of Glory
>>151002516

Hades reminds me so much of the most defensive, the most hurt, the most controlling aspects of someone that I love (who is working hard in therapy to understand & overcome). He's so wound up in his hurt and loneliness, so many walls thrown up all around, that there's no room for vulnerability, empathy or connection.

Rowan

‘If it’s true’ hits so hard live. I saw it in the West End this summer and Dónal Finn was pouring his heart out. I was actually sobbing. Oh! You know I love Hermes in the OBC but Melanie La Barrie is a gift as Hermes 💙 Also all the extra context bits throughout the whole show that you get live made me enjoy the show more, for example everything insinuated with Hades and Eurydice was so icky live but gave so much more heartbreak to ‘Flowers’ and power to Orpheus’ determination to fight for her. Anyway rant over, love your reactions as always 😁

marienapoleon

I'm so happy you love if it's true. It's my favorite song from this musical and I was looking forward to your reaction. I absolutely love the idea of beginning a revolution with just reminding people that they can ask questions and they don't have to believe everything.

Bean of Glory
>>151015599

Agreed! It's also a reference to the phrase 'Ways and Means' (a committee in the US Congress, coming from a provision in British parliament)

XanEcho
>>151012686

Yep, an older version of Way Down Hadestown's lyrics were "you either get to hell or a border town, ain't no difference anymore"

XanEcho

When/if you're up to reacting to alternative animatics, I highly suggest Oh My Stars' animatic to How Long. It really gets across some of the love that still exists between Hades and Persephone despite the strain in their marriage which is hard to pick up on if you're not watching the actors live

Broody Gaming

Omg that ending haha 😂 gods I love these. If it’s True and How Long feel like the thesis of this play. The core of the two sides, almost, of capitalism itself. The justifications and the power. Really really cool shit. If it’s true is my fav song. followed by Chant then Flowers.

Grammar Antifa
>>151013028

I still kind of prefer the concept album version of the whole thing, though I'm very biased since I've been listening to it since years before this stage version was ever created. It's hard for anyone to match Greg Brown as Hades for me.

Grammar Antifa

Mortius: I'm not trying to get too political Also Mortius: *starts singing Bella Ciao*

MJ

so great

Allison Watts

Wait until Epic III and then you'll see why I wouldn't count Hades as a villain. The Fates definitely are the worst but they are still kind of a force of nature in this telling so I wouldn't call them that but I can see how someone else would. (To be fair I'm not saying what Hades is doing isn't bad just that it's not as malicious as it may seem once you see his reasoning. Not quite Jeff Besos level of evil. More the kid who won't let you play with any of his toys)

AceOfTheDeck

I always took "our lady of ways, our lady of means" as a sort of play on "by any way or means necessary". Also the fates saying "that's the way the river runs" instead of their normal chants of how the "wind blows". Also when persephone goes "there's a crack in the wall", in this animatic it's her SEEING orpheus get in! In one of the earlier adaptations, I've hears that the 'crack in the wall' gives the souls a glimpse of the sky and earth- a sort of sign of hope/comfort despite everything they've been gaslight to believe.

MrDad

If It's True is my favorite song in the show :)

Samantha Ross

I like to think that Persephone doesn't get called by name in the underworld because she's in the role of a Chthonic god down there. You don't call Chthonic gods by name because you don't want their attention. But up above she's more Olympian.

Lauren Groen

Something that always makes me smile: "There's a crack in the wall!" Persephone then proceeds to break the fourth wall and introduce the band 💕

Kimberly Oblinger

I feel like you kind of miss the hidden subtext of hades. It's actually a lot more complex than 'hades bad, Orpheus good'. He's so much deeper than that. He doesn't think little of his people, he knows they are able to overpower him and that's what he is afraid of. As for his marriage with Persephone, she drowns herself in a sea of wine and the BOTH of them don't properly communicate. They both hurt each other.

Fernanda Semideus

I love how excited you got with if its true, bc that's exactly how I feel everytime I listen to this song

Hawk

I really hope you react to the live versions of these songs, whether they be the Tiny Desk Concert or the Tony's (or even some of the bootlegs on youtube). Seeing Reeve Carney during Wait for Me is incredible, and I think seeing Chant and Epic III adds so much to the experience. When I saw the musical myself there wasn't a single dry eye in the theater by the end, the actors simply put their hearts and souls into it. Also Our Lady of the Underground with Amber Gray oh my GOD she's amazing

Hawk
>>151334440

Also I really recommend a different animatic for Chant II then the one in your playlist! There's a more updated version of the song (Sealbatross did an animatic with it) with a verse from Persephone that I adore

Nashira Sidus
>>151096045

I just watched it thanks to your suggestion! I agree that it’s much more sympathetic <3

Nashira Sidus
>>151297170

Yesss. Also, like, well, there are a lot of metaphors in the show and what different things mean, the gods are still introduced as gods. Which means that Hades is still the god of the underworld and the dead. So of course he hast to focus on what that means, not just for the dead themselves, but for the living if anything were to change. Hades keeps a balance, just like for Persephone does. persephone just helps balance the seasons, while Hades literally balances life and death. Of course he’s kind of strict about whether he can let you come back to life or not, and I want to say more but it’s gonna spoil so I have to wait till the next update. Point is, I can see how Hades is a bit icky, but I think applying black-and-white morals is doing a huge disservice to understanding the various layers of the show.

XanEcho
>>151334440

I don't think the version with the Persephone verse is more updated? Isn't that the original version of the song, from the nytw, that got cut out from the Broadway version?

Ainsleigh McCue

fun fact, “the kingdom will fall for a song” is on the back of the hadestown shirt

AtlasMoth

In all fairness to the fates, I don’t think they actually believe in what they say! I believe they are just doing their job, which is to move the story forward. The fates specifically speak to these characters when motivation is needed. They will either move to push a character forward (ex. Pushing eurydice to leave to the underworld), or they will taunt a character in order to have them oppose (ex. Taunting Orpheus so he speaks up). I think they in fact know these characters better than anyone, and sympathize with them because their mistakes and reactions are only so human and natural. The fates will openly speak to the audience and chastise members who assume they could do better (ex, sympathizing with Eurydice.) It is FATE telling you that you are not more special than these characters and that you would not outsmart them or anyone else in this story. Because there is really only one ending to this story, and they know it very well.

AtlasMoth
>>151514601

But also I do understand the frustration with the fates LOL. Everytime I hear them go ‘don’t blame Eurydice..!’ I can’t help but think ‘well yeah we should kind of blame you instead’ even if I also understand that well.. it’s just how the story is meant to go!

Lance Ivy

it was not unsubtle enough the real villans used to unironically play why we build the wall at their "get togethers"

Tayani

I just got to your reaction to Flowers, so before I watch in on YouTube and check out the art you commissioned - I think it might be a similar shot to KH in gigi’s SIX animatic (with her sitting on the couch singing in a video) and I wanted to comment just in case I guessed right 😁

Phoenix Mackenzie
>>151576101

I have a suspicion it's something epic related after he mentioned ages ago about making something then never mentioned it again

Lance Ivy
>>151518560

You can find trump Rally's in 2016 where he came out to we build the wall

Zane C

Just subscribed because I couldn't actually wait for the episodes to drop for you to finish Hadestown, at the expense of my wallet not having a ton of disposable income but I'll be fine, probably lol

Blobsessed

I've been rewatching your reactions to Hadestown just because I feel vindication in watching you cry because that was my reaction too

Amanda Caudle

My fave part about the awkward chaotic bridge into intermission for this show is how the launch into Act 2 is like “so, is the show back, and also, are we drinking? We are probably drinking. Drinks? Is the show on yet?”

Amanda Caudle

I was also at this show in NYC (in the post part of) election week 2024 and “if it’s true” literally destroyed me in that audience.