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đŸ”„Cinderella Gray Episode 18-19 (Patreon)

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Desolane

I know what you mean bro. Pretty Derby S1 will be extremely rough, but with S2 it really becomes just as great as Cinderella Gray again (not to mention the movies).

Jk844

The swerve was so that Tama couldn’t duel her. IRL Pay The Butler’s Jockey dived to the inside because Tamamo Cross was know for his fighting spirit when close to other horses. So they left a big gap in the hopes that Tama wouldn’t run as hard. You can see the dive to the inside very clearly in the real race. https://youtu.be/z7OCYVJ79Zw?si=N9rsbb_2D5BQJ0we (The real 1988 Japan Cup)

UCCMaster

Glad you enjoyed the races!!

UCCMaster
>>202649271

Some trivia 1. Obey Your Master's personality came from Chris McCarron, a legendary American Jockey who did intensive research and background on his Japanese and international rivals to pull out the win. 2. Toni Bianca's "sabbatical" in Japan was far more than that IRL. After his injury, Tony Bin never returned to Europe, instead taking a prolonged tour of Japan...and their mares. Tony Bin would mate with hundreds of Japanese mares, siring a long line of Japanese race horses, many of whom are playable characters in Uma Musume. If you hear the names of Air Groove, Winning Ticket, and Jungle Pocket, they're all his children. 3. Yutaka Take (Nase trainer) would often state that Super Creek was the horse who taught him how to race. The horse had absolute trust in Take and Take in Creek. This is why Super Creek is shown in anime to admire and give so much praise to Nase trainer. 4. The Fall Tenno Sho (Akiten for short), the Japan Cup, and the Arima Kinen are the big 3 G1 races in the autumn, often called the Fall Triple Crown. Very few horses have managed to win the Fall Triple crown. When Tamamo had announced her plans to race in all three, it was implied that this was her ultimate goal. Unfortunately, her loss at the Japan Cup would steal those plans away from her.

Leinco

First off, I am beyond glad you didn't do 4 in one sitting like you did for ep 14 - 17. You would've hit another big cliff-hanger doing that, and I'd rather you wait a week instead of two weeks unless your schedule allows you to do 4 in one sitting and split it like you did for 14-17. But as always, only if your schedule allows 👍 I also noticed for episode 19 that you switched to the uh... Ahem... Same legally questionable viewing website I use that I will not name for legal reasons. It auto skips intros and outros which is annoying. But for future reference if you use that site again, you can disable this underneath the video player when not full screened. Anyway, I'll talk more about the narrative side of things, since I feel others tend to have a better grasp of the irl horse trivia, even if I do have alot of that random knowledge. And I did major in English Literature, so I feel more connected to narratives more than anything else. (Humble brag, I know) So, since it's not a spoiler anymore cause Roppei did the lore-dump, it's time to talk about the Zone. As you said in the episode, the Zone/Flow does exist IRL. It's a psychological condition where you, for lack of a better term, "lock the the F in". And hey, random suggestion for a future "Track stories" yap session since the YT comments bullied you into it again, did you ever enter the Zone in your races? But anime definitely exaggerates the Zone as a superpower, and Umamusume is no exception. Now, as Roppei said in the episode, there's no scientific proof of it in universe, so this is all based on my own conjecture based on what is said by the Umas themselves. First of all, I strongly believe the whole special effects (Tama's lightning, Obey's galaxy, etc) is actually there, but only visible to Umamusume. You'll notice during the Japan cup, on the big TV screen, those effects aren't there. Of course, trainers and people who watch a lot of races may be able to tell something is up, but Humans can't see the Zone, only it's effects on the Uma's who are running. Second, I believe the Zone in Umamusume is a physical force rather than a psychological condition. Even though it requires a psychological shift to get there, it doesn't simply affect your brain at a minimum. Like Tamamo said in the Tenno Sho, everything went quiet, it was like "her own lil' world". I'll expand on this more after the Arima Kinen, cause of a big thing that happens during that race, but for now, some examples: - Tama's cramp becoming a non-factor during the Tenno Sho - Obey's comment during the Japan Cup about how her Zone is "Imperfect and Unstable". It simply wasn't at full strength like others, cause Obey's Zone was so conditional that it could only exist in that moment on that specific track. There's also a few points in the series where I believe the Zone was tapped into but not mentioned. (Not a full activation. Tamamo's was 100% the first time we saw that), but more of a subtle power boost. Those points being: - Oguri's first win against March. - Sakura Chiyono O's Japanese Derby win. - Super Creek in the Kikuka Sho. You'll likely remember her eyes went all swirly. The subtlety there rivals a brick. - There is also something with Dicta Striker that happened off-screen that is in a flashback next episode that I won't say yet due to spoilers. But on a rewatch it recontextualises so many of her comments and actions so I love it. Now, a full activation of the Zone, requires an Uma to break through their psychological limits. And this is symbolised by the cracking screen. It's important to note here that this only happens the first time an Uma reaches the Zone. Note that Tamamo and Toni didn't have the cracking effect in the Japan Cup like Obey did. Anyway, enough yapping about the Zone. Time for some symbolism: - Obey's flashback in front of the mirror is meant to parallel Joaquin Phoenix in the Joker film if you've ever seen that. - The National Trainer exam. It is notoriously difficult, like was said in the episode. I won't say when due to spoiler, but just know that your boi Kitahara does eventually get there. It just is in a later part of the manga that hasn't been animated yet. - Finally, I would urge you to remember the Zone effect for Toni Bianca. The rainbow effect. As was said in other comments, one of the descendants of Toni is Jungle Pocket, who is a protagonist in the Beginning of a New Era movie. Her Zone (that term wasn't in use until Cinderella Gray, but it's basically always been there, let's be honest guys) is basically the same as Toni's. It's very cool how they show who is related to who based on the special effects while running. Okay, yikes, I did not mean to type that much aha. I'll just leave off with echoing what Desolane said. Pretty Derby S1 is by far the weakest of all Uma media. But it's important to note that it was more of a proof of concept, as it came out before the game did even. If you can stick it out though, S2 of Pretty Derby is pretty unanimously called the strongest narrative in the franchise, as Tokai Teio's irl story is insane, to put it lightly. Glad to see you're enjoying :)

HyperFirez

While Season 1 might be a bit of a snooze-fest, I can promise you everything after is still really good. Season 2 was one of the best selling Blu-Ray releases of an anime of all time in Japan. 9:41 - Most of the races in the US are on Dirt. Most of Japan's races are on Turf. Dirt is cheaper and easier to maintain. Certain horses are quite literally bred to be better at various distances and track types. Obey (Pay The Butler) happened to be best at Turf which is unfortunate given he was born in the US. 12:12 - My best guess is the stars symbolize being an overly friendly personality, like that other girl was to her.

JayKReacts
>>202605944

Maaan its def gonna be tough since I dropped into the craziest part. But if S2 picks up I think S1 should still be alright to get through lol

JayKReacts
>>202639429

Makes sense! And I understood it better after running back the episode it highlighted I area around Tamamo she was avoiding. Thats interesting, I guess the horse only reacted to what was immediately close to it. Crazy strategy that actually paid off! And I'm saving real life comparisons videos for reactions so we'll for sure watch those together in a video

JayKReacts
>>202678414

I'm seeing a few people say S2 holds up as good as CinGray, I'm sure we'll get through S1 just fine. Yeah thats unfortunate for Obey that it's all dirt tracks in her country. Daang the jockey should've just moved his horse to Japan or another country for the sake of the horse having a better career I'm sure it would pay off better too. And im feeling like that's true cuz she can turn the star on and off. And she says let me put my mask on or something before going back in front of the fans while talking to tamamo. I guess just her hiding her true competitive side. Maybe like celebrities when they know they're on camera vs back stage talking

JayKReacts
>>202677368

Leinco after thorough reviewing of the details presented here I'd like to give this essay an A++! Lol jkjk but for real tho you make some good points in here about the zone stuff! First off I got it noted that I'll likely make sure I have the energy to do a 4 piece recording for the finale of Cour 2 now that I know it'll be a cliffhanger. And yeah I mainly be on crunchyroll but if it doesn't have it I have to explore the "other options" lol I gotta remember to turn the skip intro thing off. English Lit Major AYYYE thats fire! (apologies for all my grammar and typing mistakes I was unaware I'm speaking to a literature god.) But yo that cool I can tell you like to geek on the small details and plot points too! The zone is very interesting and sounds exactly like a flow state. Yo when I read the part of you saying the "zone" doesnt appear on screen I had to immediately run back the episode and see it, they really don't see it on big screen. Which if the animators went through that effort of not putting it on screen, that confirms what you're saying of it's not visible to the human eye. But our perspective as a viewer is the other Umas on the track being able to see it. And I think you summarized it best it just means "lock the f in" lol I feel like it isn't there but it's "felt" like an aura. Or like someone walking down the street with confidence, it's interesting when walking down a crowded area. Two people clearly about to walk straight into each other, one person has to decide who moves out the way. Subconsciously it's usually the person with less intention in how they're walking that moves over to let the other person keep walking straight (or most move out the way out of respect). We kinda read "auras" on the day to day without talking to each other. But in sports and on the field I imagine it feels much more overwhelming and intentional when someone is trying their hardest to win against you. I've had an interesting moment before a race where I changed the entire vibe of my 3 teammates before a big 4x4 race because I felt so confident in my team that we'd win that I actually told them before the race "idky or where this feeling is coming from but I KNOW that we're gonna win this race yall" I watched their energy change from serious to smiling with me cuz I think they started believing me. I think 3 of us hit a PR time on that race, I wasn't nervous the whole time I already knew we won it was pretty much a fact in my head during the whole race. I'll share that story if I can since Im getting bullied to talk more lol. I was also gonna bring up that point you made of the cracking glass in the next upload! I was having the same thought of this must represent you first time finding the next level to be in the zone. I think what's going on with Oguri right now is now that Tamamo won twice which she hasnt been use to all this time. Her focus is more on "why can't a catch them" more than "I know I can beat them" like she was previously before her first loss. I feel getting into the flow state for me personally is mainly all internal. It's confidence in your ability and knowing what you're doing isn't wrong and I'm going to trust and win my way. Finding someone faster than you causes your brain to believe the way you been doing things isn't correct anymore, when it actually was. But it's also a good thing for Oguri because I'm sure she would never feel the need to find "the zone" if she never found someone like Tamamo that's faster than her. I'm already talking to much so I can't get to your other points but thanks for this Leinco! I'll make next Uma upload a 4 piece!

Marcoipo Qlo

DICTA STRIKER THE GOAT

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Details for episode 18 and 19 --------------------------------------- My Big Boy size 7:20 One thing that’s a bit funny about this is that My Big Boy was 506kg during this race, only 12kg heavier than Oguri. A lot of characters in the series were actually much heavier than 506kg during their careers, so he wasn’t actually that big in real life. For example, Legend Teio (Lord Royal) was 524kg during the Tenno Sho, and some others are much larger. --------------------------------------- Pay the Butler being able to race in the Japan Cup 9:02 Pay the Butler was able to race because the requirements for foreign horses to compete were a bit more lax. The JRA wanted a lot of foreign competitors to be able to participate, and even now continues to incentivize them to come. Foreign participation went down a lot because Japanese horses dominated for 20 years, but in 2025 a foreign horse finally won, setting a new world record for 2400m. --------------------------------------- Track types 9:30 Most races in America are dirt courses, and many horses who perform well on one do not on the other. Furthermore, the turf in different locations can differ greatly. European turf, for example, is much softer than Japanese turf. This is why Japanese horses have such a hard time in the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe, as the French turf is much softer. The Tokyo Racecourse is optimized for high speed, which is why many world records have been set there. --------------------------------------- Chris McCarron’s riding style 13:25 The lack of bouncing is a reference to the jockey, Chris McCarron, whose body was extremely stable during the race. --------------------------------------- Obey’s diagonal movement 18:46 This diagonal movement was, as mentioned in the show, extremely risky, but was also said to be a genius move by McCarron. 19:14 Obey was far enough ahead to not block anyone’s path. It was just a risky move since it could potentially be seen as a violation. 28:48 The point of the strategy was to avoid being next to Tama. She knew that if they were next to each other, Tama would start moving faster due to her strong competitive drive. --------------------------------------- Big Rudolf Plush 1:02:10 This actually exists at the racecourse, though it is a normal horse instead of an Umamusume. The rest of the racecourse shown is accurate to real life as well, though there is one minor mistake in the anime. Betting machines are shown because the artists used the real venue as a reference, but they are not present in the manga because horse betting isn’t a thing in Umamusume.

JayKReacts
>>203103245

Big boy ain't even big lol false advertising right there. Oh yeah I forgot you mentioned they even made the payout way bigger just to get more people to join the Japan Cup. Yeah it would make sense to give them easier requirements so they'll have more competitors. Crazy that's his first G1 win, I wonder if he continued to succeed in US after that or just went back to normal since his whole strategy is based on turf tracks. That makes sense why japanese horses loses at softer turfs in Europe. But I feel like that would mean Europe horse would dominate in Japan on firm turfs, I feel like if you're fast on soft turf you should be even faster on firm turf since you have more traction and power in the ground. Like a runner that's fast in sand would be faster on solid ground. But maybe it all just depends on the horse's preference. Ooo that's a nice touch to give Obey a spacey type zone to match that detail of Chris' floaty type of riding, her running style def looked smoother than everyone else's. And that swerve strategy makes since after I ran it back, I must've missed a dialog line but I see what she was doing now avoiding the area that would trigger her to try and compete with her. That is a smart play! And interesting they decided to remove all betting. Even though they are humans instead of horses, people still bet on humans in sports irl too so I feel like betting on Umas could still exist. As usual thanks for this comment and all the info bro! I would probably still think this was just a random show about horse girls running if it weren't for yall lol