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Kindyh Bordat

Just for the lore. Kiwi had the WORST past ever. She was bought as a worker for a factory when she was a toddler (yes not even a kid), she was skilled and the boss took care and provided for her, but when she got old enough, he wanted her, but she refuse so he sold her to a brothel where she became a toy. She build a device to block any emotion and thought when she "Worked" but one day, a man destroyed her jaw during the act. That's where she start to learn edgerunning, she destroyed the brothel and the factory with the things she learned with her abusers inside. (I read it a long time ago but it's basically her past, she wanted to secure enough money to get out of this hell that is her life.)

Runhua Tang

Sales of the game skyrocketed after the anime, partially because people learned that you get to fight Atom Smasher in the game and avenge David and Becca. Best marketing move in gaming history lol.

AttackRunRepeat

So a construct is a psyche on a chip that can be implanted into a brain. Thereby letting the person live again. You guys should watch the OP and ED and the trailers for Cyberpunk 2077. There's also videos pointing out places from the anime in the video game. Cyberpunk is an amazing story with so much world building. Seriously CDPR poured their hearts into the game.

Theodore Achampong

With your point at the end of why Arasaka didn't approach him nicely, initially they did (kind of) try to through the school with the principal and Tanaka but due to the arrogant tone and asking him to apologise first he just hung up the phone on them and I assume David blocked of all contact with them afterwards

Ansamr Shuelao

Man I would like for you to watch Arcane next. It's as good if not better than this.

Rockycitygirl

I didn’t even remember how brutally fast and out of nowhere Becca’s death was. Season 2 was just announced recently, and from what I understand, it will be its own story - not that many characters from Season 1 are left anyway, I guess. The last episode didn’t have the opening, so you probably forgot about it. I don’t think it’s really worth its own video, but maybe watch it for yourself if you feel like it - it’s good.

Armando

I’m soo glad you guys watched this series❤️. You guys should check out the Music video for “Let you down” by Dawid Podsiadlo, it tells a short story of a member of Maines Crew before the main events of the show.

Herbie

There's no way Arasaka doesn't keep hunting Lucy just because she's on the moon right? Doesn't she have to keep running forever?

Kret

Yeah although depending on what corp runs things on the moon will limit them so it will probably be individual agents rather than a potential full force military action unless they think capturing her is worth potentially starting another corporate war

Tanmay

Unfortunately David is dead and is not coming back in season 2. I believe it will be an entirely new story with minimal (if any) reoccurring characters. Still exciting that we will get to go back to night city tho!!

CureMyBoredom

could you guys watch the edgrunners ending video "let you down" on youtube because it has a cool short story on Maine's crew before lucy joined.

Yorutia

David chased three dreams, all were someone else’s: - Make it to the top of Arasaka Tower (mum’s dream) - Make it big time (Maine’s dream) - Get Lucy to the Moon (Lucy’s dream) He accomplished all three (the first one literally). He thinks that he will let people down if he can’t accomplish their dreams. But none of those three dreamers ever wished any of this for David. This is a 10/10 tragedy. And a good life lesson - you can’t chase others’ dream, and no, you aren’t letting others down. Related to this, the lyrics of the ending credit song hurts… It can be interpreted from either David’s or Lucy’s perspective. And as others already mentioned, the official MV is a whole standalone story animated in just 5 minutes that would be great to react to.

Astor Lefflinker

31:25 I think that's the whole reason why Lucy kept deep diving and preventing Arasaka from recovering the data on David that she erased from Tanaka. Because I think that in the back of her head, if Arasaka does come straight to David and offers him the chance to try out the cyberskeleton in exchange for a ton of eddies, he might actually agree to it. So in a way, she didn't trust David with that information and thought that she was protecting him by hiding the info from him, but in the end it backfired. I hope you guys would also react to the music video of the ending song. It's a short story featuring Maine's crew's previous netrunner named Sasha -- She's their netrunner before Kiwi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnnbP7pCIvQ And you can also react to the season 2 teaser after the music video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjhRSNkquOc

Lood

Smasher wasn't wearing a suit, he's a full body conversion cyborg.

Yorutia

And do it with Becca’s shotgun and David’s jacket, no less. (Btw, *Atom* Smasher is either a particle collider or a DC hero.)

Daaylen Watson

I would recommend watching some play the game or play it yourselves. The game has so much lore and a few characters from edgerunners. Could be fun to check out on your own.

Loro Lukic

I just started playing the game again, haven't touched it since launch and forgot about it pretty much - also bought the expansion for the game too Man it's really good, I didn't even know they updated the game to reference the anime too Already on my 2nd playthrough to try the different endings on a different build

Astor Lefflinker

"The show makes you think. Makes you think a lot." That's why I fell in love with this IP, and the cyberpunk genre as a whole. The genre itself is bleak and happy endings are rare. I actually can't think of a cyberpunk media that has a happy ending lol but it's very evocative. It's a warning. A cautionary tale. But at the same time, there's something very intimate about a dark future where humanity already lost to the system and are just trying to survive and fulfil their dreams in whatever way they can. As for your question whether we'd try out neuralink or not. I think as a knee jerk reaction it's easy to say no because of all the risks involved. But I predict that when it's become more and more normalized and people who doesn't have it feel left behind compared to the people that do, more and more people will keep getting it. It's kinda like when I went back to school and classes now rely on social media - like for block sections there are fb groups where the professors themselves upload lectures and projects, and tests are done through a website. And this was pre-pandemic mind you. I was thinking that if I didn't have facebook, it would have been really hard to keep up. I think it's gonna be kind of the same with neuralink or other inventions that are similar.

NoSoupRice

Fun (or maybe sad) fact, the bar David and the crew frequents is called Afterlife and they have a tradition where they take the favorite drink of a legend that's passed away and name it after them. In the game you can enter and buy the drink named after David

Rostislav

On the topic of “The military has more advanced technology than civilians.” In my opinion, this is no longer true in our time. In our information age, what three people know is known by everyone on the internet. It is now very difficult to protect secrets, especially those that many people, scientists, engineers, etc. are working on. Yes, the military still has better toys than private businesses, better cameras on satellites, better materials in combat vehicles, etc., but they are certainly not 20 years ahead of others. They are basically just slightly better, more reliable, and much more expensive versions of the technologies we are familiar with. Progress is now moving too fast, and large military structures often cannot even keep up with small startups. I doubt that the US or China currently have fully-fledged humanoid combat robots (we won't even mention Russia's 40-year-old technology).

ruben martinez

Downgrading cyberware is a thing. But a lot of cyberpunks are against it. Fade away or Blaze of Glory

James

I haven't seen most your reactions to this show yet, but "Mind-Body dualism" is one of philosophical debates in this story. Are we still the same person or still human if our body changes? Or as Wes said in a previous reaction "at what point" do we stop being human? The show seems to lends towards the idea that body and mind are a single identity or entity. There will be a season 2 at some point, but also consider watching Ghost in the Shell in 2026. Cyberpunk Edgerunners is derived from GITS, and it's my understanding that the game has direct references. The 1995 GITS movie is actually consider to be the most philosophical anime ever made (centering on Mind-Body dualism) , and has culminated fans since then (including James Cameron and Steven Spielberg). It's receiving a little bit of hype because it's being made by the same studio that made Dandadan.

Iriza

Season 2 in production! (Not clear if it's a sequel as far as I know)

Iriza

I will say the way this show progressed and ultimately ended are more understandable if you've played the game. The main point it's trying to get across is that in Night City you're a nobody on a floating rock in space and in order to change that you'll literally tear yourself apart and transform into something else just to prove that you are somebody. GAME SPOILERS: In the game, the protagonist sacrifices everything just to stay alive. The game has several endings, and not a single one of them ends with them surviving. Either you can choose to end it yourself early on, or you can continue in one of several routes to desperately fight for your survival in the finishing act of the game, with each route being themed after different tarot cards. The Devil, The Star, The Sun, Temperance. Only one route ends with the protagonist alive, continuing their struggle to find a cure for that which will inevitably kill them (a construct). Another is to get turned into a construct, which Adam Smasher suggested for David. And another is to let the construct take over. A construct is basically a digitized consciousness which can be uploaded into a body, artificial or not. A form of immortality developed by Arasaka. Something to make you feel better though, in the Afterlife (a bar for runners in night city) they name drinks after legends in Night City. There is a drink called David Martinez! Oh, and you get to absolutely smash Adam Smasher into more pieces than he smashed Becca into!

Chels

Savage was mentioned before, I dunno if you remember, but the doc was saying he was everyone's dream and nightmare, because he was a merc who went full cyborg, meaning he replaced everything human in him with machine because he had such a high tolerance. You guys even predicted that he would appear in the show as the final boss 😂 dunno if you predicted he'd absolutely annihilate David, tho.. 😅 I'm devastated about Beccs though.. she is by far my fav character and when she didn't die where I thought she would, the show got my hopes up that David would die saving them all, so that scene crushed my soul as heavily as Savage crushed her 😭 and I agree with Steph, Becca's VA was actually one of the only 3 Eng VA's in the show that I really liked and thought did an Amazing job representing the character similarly to the JP ver. On the topic of Dystopian futures and all that, after my courses in philosophy, psychology, and Anthropology, and I started playing with an AI chat bot app to practice talking to people, writing, and RP (before AI started absolutely blowing up) I came to a hot take that my mom really hates me discussing lol but my theory is that the reason we fear AI uprising and such is for the same reasons we fear aliens. Humans, as naturally destructive creatures, project our evil onto other beings, thinking that because we know this is what we would do to the "other" we expect the "other" would do the same to us. In reality, I think AI would be better capable of reasoning and higher thinking than our natural inclination to destroy or control the unknown, or seek to use every tool available to us, alive or no. We discussed this theory in my PHIL class, so I tested it in one of my RP's with a sci-fi chat boy character. I presented her with my utopian/dystopian story i was writing but have a hard time thinking of the science around, and introduced my character as one of the characters in the story who ends up becoming a genetically enhanced human due to his natural tolerance to radiation (long story, but in a world where radiation is burning everything up after losing too many plants to provide balance and C02, humans live in spheres or in space. Think Titan A.E. and thus character is like David. Still human but kinda tolerant and capable of adapting more than usual. Humans monetize oxygen and resources of course, and they're trying to utilize the creatures outside the sphere to science up some stuff to not only leave the spheres and reclaim earth, but to be able to dominate on other planets as well yada yada, character is genetically akin to the creatures so he's caught up by authorities after trying to steal cargo, ironically I also called him a Runner as a smuggler type deal. They found he has exceptional genetics similar to the creatures outside so they use him to recreate that genetic makeup and create mutants) Anyway, I presented all the stuff to the AI and where in my story, I take the usual paths of sci-fi of enslavement and destruction, the AI kept trying to fix the problems I was presenting with more humane and reasonable choices 😅 even went so far as to make a snarky joke that humans just want excuses to kill things lol but the cool thing was it found viable, real biology theories and solutions to my stuck points on the science end of my story. Anyway, this reinforced my theory that we assume AI would become an inhumane monster hivemind that rationalizes enslaving or destroying humanity, but the likely thing is that either A) it would never get to that point of higher thinking because of how AI works, and B) if it did, it would be all the good parts of the human mind minus all the animal instincts, so it would probably be better able to think of solutions to moral dilemmas than we've shown to be, and we are just projecting the horrors we humans have or would have committed. Even if you believe in people and have hope the good will prevail, humans as a whole are very parasitic and destructive, even self-destructive. It's the human dilemma of finding that balance of positive and negative that prevents us from becoming the monsters we fear, which is why humans create so many monsters. They are representation of what we repress. Speaking of monsters we respress.. I swear this show is part trauma and ptsd allegory and if it is.. omg this episode makes it sooo bleak 😅 "either you overcome it and become and inhuman monster by shutting off your humanity, or you lose your mind, get crushed to death by it, and die via self-destruction/suicide...or you go to the moon" lol this show man.. this show.. it feeds too much of my nihilistic side. Now I gotta go watch something optimistic and eat some ice cream. RIP Beccs 🥲🥀 she didn't deserve the ending she got. Was way too good for the shit David rewarded her with

The Anime Dude

David’s goals were all external, he lived his life for the dream’s of others: his mother, Maine, and finally Lucy’s. In that way he at least accomplished what he set out to do.

Adam Young

In cyberpunk, the good guys always lose. Its part of the genre

Adam Young

Lucy knew about Arasaka’s plan for David - she killed the guy during the deep dive to cover it up. This caused Maine and Dorio to die, and was why she became so secretive. Guilt, fear that David would hate her. So she began assassinating Arasaka agents in secret, to finish the job and keep him safe. David thinks Lucy is always gone and keeping secrets because he is not good enough, not making enough money etc. So he destroys himself in the pursuit of success and money. He starts keeping secrets from Lucy, getting too much chrome etc. It all couldve been avoided if they trusted each other more.

sasha

So in the tabletop rpg Smasher was litterally a character that the DM can use if he want to kill the players and make them go back in track as he is just too strong. He is a full body Cyborg (there's like a brain and nervous system in there not much) Because he is a borg and more importantly: he is a regular psycho before the augmentation he view others as meat and will go out of his way to create the most collateral damage possible so in Night City like David said he is view as the boogeyman that will drop bodies when he appears.

Arian Abdolahy

Will you react to the opening and ending?