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tnozero

yes, joce & cologne both haven’t got their bottom surgeries. but technically speaking cologne is more of a “man” than joce is. joce is on hormones/testosterone and cologne isn’t😭. basically joce never stood a chance

Miquel

basically following up Joce v Cologne would be equivalent to Gucci v DTB even tho Joce doesnt have bottom surgery Joce been on hormones for years now which breaks down the testosterone levels in body which makes her have more of a female make up per say vs Cologne who just a feminine boy