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The Last of the Mohicans Full Uncut (Patreon)

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2024-07-26 22:00:03
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Michael Aalgaard

This takes place roughly 100 years before the DANCES WITH WOLVES timeline

David Collins

LOVE Wes Studi as Magua. He was great in Dances With Wolves too. He also cracked me up with his performance in Mystery Men. Not a terribly great movie, but it had it's moments of hilarity.

Apache

Sorry, Biss. I was just wanting to expose you to more movies with Native Americans. Forgot this movie benefits from some historical knowledge.

Lamar Smith

You asked, “It’s purely voluntary, right?” A levy, it’s the same as a draft, is voluntary….. Until it isn’t. The government will say, “We need X number of men.” If X volunteers come forward, great. If not, governments reserve the right to ‘press’ the shortfall. That is, force the number of men to serve to make the total X.

Lamar Smith

So sorry, you observed, “This is definitely BEFORE ‘Dances With Wolves.’ Uh no. This is over 100 years before then. Americans keep these dates in mind: 1776 American Revolution. 1861-1865 American Civil War. Europeans call the time period depicted in this movie The Seven Years’ War. Americans call it The French & Indian War. Whatever you call it, it both preceded and caused the American Revolutionary War. Britain paid a lot of money to protect its colonists during this conflict. Parliament decided to raise taxes on the Colonies to pay the debt. Americans didn’t like that, especially because there were NO Americans in Parliament. The slogan was, “No taxation without Representation.” Americans decided that if the Government across the ocean doesn’t listen to our demands, then we are no longer bound to the Government; we are no longer citizens. We’re something else. We’re our own thing. The Crown said “No!” and we fought it out.

Lamar Smith
>>144796912

Just to be clear, from the movies I know you’ve seen, it goes ‘Last of the Mohicans’ (Before the American Revolutionary War), ‘The Patriot,’ (during the Revolutionary War), ‘Dances With Wolves,’ (During the American Civil War).

Lamar Smith

Okay, you said, “I don’t understand why they have to fight….. like, everybody ‘reload, fire!’” The weapons of the day for soldiers were smooth-bore muskets with hand-cast round shot. The inside of the barrel was like a shotgun. Soldiers were given, like, bricks of lead and a scissors-like device to pinch off and form musket balls. Remember ‘Patriot’ where the main character made balls from his kids’ lead soldiers? So, those balls, when fired, could exit the barrel and take a 90-degree turn if they were not perfectly smooth. Militaries had had these kinds of guns since the 1400s. They studied it and studied it and determined that the only way to get an acceptable number of hits was to mass your men together and have them fire all together. If I asked you, “What is the series of commands given to make men fire?” you’d say, “Ready!….. Aim!….. FIRE!” At this time there was NO ‘Aim!’ There was no point. Your shot wouldn’t be accurate anyway. It was, back then, just “Load!….. and…. FIRE!” You want to guarantee hits, it’s NOT ‘Aim!’ better, it was “Bunch up more guys!” The mark of a soldier, back then, wasn’t marksmanship, it was standing there while the two sides blasted at each other until one side broke and ran. It was during this war and the Revolutionary War that riflemen made their mark on the battlefield. Woodsmen and hunters (Think ‘The Revenant.’) needed to be accurate to make sure they hit a bear or a deer or whatever. In the same way an American football quarterback throws the football so it spins while it flies, called a ‘spiral,’ to increase accuracy, a barrel of a gun with grooves cut in it, spins the round and makes it more accurate. It’s both harder to manufacture weapons like this and, at this time, takes longer to load. Recall ‘The Patriot,’ when Mel Gibson is talking to the British General Cornwallis, and he complains that the colonials “….target our officers.” The only thing that makes that possible is grooves on the inside of the barrels, spinning the ball and making it more accurate. By the American Civil War, the muskets on both sides were not globe-shaped but more like the conical rounds you’re familiar with today. They fly better and MUCH more accurately…… But BOTH sides in the Civil War still lined up their troops. That’s why ‘the butcher’s bill’ in the Civil War was so high. The tactics hadn’t kept up with the technology.

fugazi225

your honesty is what i like about your reactions,i like this movie alot but understand that if you were going into this movie with an idea of what it was all about and it ended up going in a different direction and not liking because of this

Michael Aalgaard

You didn't like this movie because you started watching it with EXPECTATIONS of what you were about to see.

JJ Hennessey

Well that went different than I anticipated. It felt like you were ready for it to scoot to a finish a third of the way through. I haven’t seen this expanded cut of the movie before. Possibly in the future it would be worth searching out the theatrical cuts, to cut down on drawn out scenes. I personally really like the historical aspects of the film. The scenery and musical score also helped draw me into that and Wes Studi and Daniel Day-Lewis were excellent.

Warrior Pitbull

I read some of the comments and now I think I'd rather not watch your reaction it as it appears that you started with preconceptions of this movie and then were ready for it to end very early on. That's unfortunate. This is one of my favorite movies with beautiful cinematography, music and some of the best actors and actresses in film. Daniel Day Lewis is always amazing as well as Madeleine Stowe. And of course, I love the history. It's unfortunate that you didn't like it. Oh well, to each their own.

Lamar Smith
>>144780690

Did you see him in ‘Hostiles?’ Hard to judge but might have ‘outperformed’(However you define that.) Christian Bale. I’m talking, (I think, prepared to be corrected) BETWEEN Dark Knight and Rises….. Like a, I’m SORRY to sound cynical, truly, ….a ‘vanity’ “Native Americans are people, too….. they got f-ed over!…..” So, he could ‘phone’ it in but probably wouldn’t….. Niche film….. And, in my humble opinion, Wes acted circles around him…. Just in terms of…… Like, when he’s in a scene, your eyes are just drawn to him…. He might be just sitting there, but… That was my reaction

Eddie Perkins
>>144816934

I didn't start with any expectations, and I didn't like it. Everyone is different.