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Severance 2x10 Watch Along (Patreon)

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2025-03-26 18:00:08
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Kevin Landon

Speaking of super churches, you 2 should DEF watch Righteous Gemstones on HBO

Dustin

A couple of quick things now that you've seen this amazing finale: Britt Lower (Helly R/Helena's actress) confirmed that it was Helly R, not Helena at the end. The look she gives at the door is supposed to be remorseful/sorry but I can def see how you could interpret it otherwise. As you guys said, Mark S did exactly what he promised Mark to do, Gemma is out and safe. As for what Helly/Mark S are planning......I reckon they aren't. The innies are basically children and I don't think they planned ahead at all, more of just 'Let me just have 10 more minutes with this person, consequences be damned'. After all, does Mark S care if outtie Mark dies when Mark S was assuming his life would end with reintegration? Lastly, I think next season will be a standoff/coup/uprising from MCR just like we saw in the paintings in season 1, they even have Milchik as a hostage and a decent number of people with C&M band players there. Fantastic finale, amazing season, always fun watching you guys react.

Smapdi

I read a really great take about the constant false starts with the reintegration story line this season. What many viewers (myself included) thought was uncharacteristically shaky writing was in fact the show constantly hinting that reintegration was failing. And, it was failing because iMark doesn't want to be reintegrated. He wants his own life. Like the reveal that Cobel invented severance, I think this re-contexualizes so much of what came before, and makes the plotting this season make way more sense. I might even go so far as speculate that reintegration doesn't work, period. Maybe Petey didn't die because he did it wrong, but because his two personalities were incapable of reconciling. And, regardless of whether you think reintegration would be another form of death to an innie or not, it's still a decision being made unilaterally by their outie. Just as innies had no say in their birth, their literal or figurative death is being pursued without their knowledge. It's clear now that, by rooting for reintegration to happen all season, much of the viewing audience has been just as complicit as the show's outies in not seeing the innies as real people, with their own agency. They're not simple-minded children, like even our actual protagonist thinks, but real people, desperate to survive. Sure, we have more sympathy for the innies than Lumon does, but, whether we were conscious of it or not, we were still valuing the survival of the outie over them. I think there's a lot of people watching this show who, if they were being honest, would tolerate iMark losing all agency, if it meant oMark and Gemma had their happy ever after. Hell, there's still a part of me wishing both had got out at the end. We took for granted that the innie's would be easy allies with the anti-Lumon outies, but this finale blows up every assumption we've made, and has revealed the blind spots in our sympathies. That's just some damn good Sci-fi.

Athasin

Outie Mark: "I'm just trying to save my wife. I can't abandon her. And if you help me I won't abandon you either. I promise." *Innie Mark helps him saves Gemma, goes on to stay with Helly* As much as you want to be mad at innie Mark, he held up his end of the bargain and now he's making sure a guy he has ZERO reason to trust holds up to that promise. I personally can't be mad at him for that. There are people who accept going through torture because there is a chance they'll make it, rather than just accept death, and we call them survivors.

Joe Blankenship

Yeah, I was pretty mad at the end of this. Where does he think they're going to go? What's to stop another Lumon stooge from grabbing Gemma in the stairwell? And I guess the big question is was that Helly or was it Helena at the end? Maybe she saw that encounter with Helly and her father on the security cameras and she's turned against him? I dunno.

Joe Blankenship
>>169016704

The innies share the same brain as their outie. All of what they are comes from their outies. They don't wake up on the table and have to re-learn how to walk and talk. They're essentially amnesiac. They might not remember all of their life memories, but certain things are still there. Dylan uses slang that his innie would have never heard before. And Irving had dreams about black paint.

DeVaunBeats

It's not Helena. They've already confirmed that. But also, the fact people are mad at Mark S just exposes the fact that you, the audience, also don't see innie Mark as his own person. You see him as a lesser person and that it should be a given he'd give up HIS life and the person HE loves to help someone he knows nothing about. Everyone mad at Mark S is being exposed by the show. Nobody ever expected Mark S to not go through with the plan. It's like we just expected him to give up everything because he doesn't matter like Outie Mark matters. But he finally, FINALLY gets the chance to act for HIMSELF. He doesn't love Gemma, he loves Helly. They don't know where they're running to, but it's still more time together even if it may not be long. "They give us half a life, and then expect us not to fight for it" He's fighting for his. He was completely justified in his choice. If outie Mark was in the same situation and had the choice to stay with Gemma, he'd make the same decision. Innie Mark has never had the chance to have his own agency until now. And he took it. Good for him. But I'm just glad Gemma is safe. I feel like next season all of the innies are going to refuse to leave the building. They've already taken over the floor and they outnumber everyone else. And Gemma will get help from Devon to try to get Mark back. She doesn't know Mark is Severed so probably just thinks he left her. I know Devon will clear that up for her. So glad they didn't decide to do the predictable thing and kill her.

Smapdi
>>169016704

And yet the show made it crystal clear this episode that iMark is a person all his own. He has his own motivations, and is able to act in what he believes is his own self-interest. From the evidence presented in the show so far, I believe there is a compelling case to be made that reintegration can only be safely achieved if both personas are aware of what is happening and actually want to be reintegrated. Maybe the reason both Petey and now Mark's reintegrations failed is precisely because their innie's weren't included in the decision to go through with the procedure. And, maybe this whole theory goes in the trash, if the show later introduces people who did successfully reintegrate. But, I think there's a bitterly funny irony to the idea that Reghabi's crusade against Lumon and to "free" people's innies is doomed to fail because she herself doesn't fully respect them as complete people. That entire last scene was iMark rejecting the idea that he was just an aspect of an outie's larger persona. He is a person, and he is going to risk everything to have a chance at living his own life, with the people HE loves. Personally, I'm so disappointed that iMark didn't leave with Gemma, but I fully understand why he did it. Plus, the innies have taken over the severance floor. This is the best opportunity to change their fortunes that they're ever going to get.

Nathan Steele
>>169035840

Mark S isnt thinking about where exactly theyre going in the moment. He's literally just trying to stay alive. Every minute matters when your life can be snuffed out in an instant. He saved Gemma's life and knows if he walks out that door he's never going to wake up again. I'm guessing the story going forward will instead be Devon and Gemma trying to get Mark out of Lumon, and that Jame will keep Helly as her innie because he believes she should be the next CEO or whatever. And maybe Helly will only do her job if innie Mark is around. Kind of like a reversal of everything that happened this season

Daymee

I'll save most of my thoughts for the upcoming chat if I can make it, but I'll just put in this little tid-bit of fun. Apparently, Gwendoline Christie spent a good amount of time off-camera with the goats! I love this. Especially after she went full-on 'Brienne v. Hound' on Mr. Drummond. "Gwendoline Christie has spoken about her experience working with the goats on set, describing them as 'sublime' but also 'completely uncontrollable' and like 'divas.' She even mentioned keeping treats in her pockets to manage them." So, yay! Always liked the actress, now I like her even more. Goat love!

Eamon

Man, i have had terrible luck with second seasons recently, invincible, squid game, now this. My god what a boring, uneventful, overly pretentious, psudo deep, melodrama this turned out to be. Not as bad as season 2 of invincible and squid game but still pretty bad, dont even know if i care for a season 3 after having my time wasted so much.

Eamon
>>169052251

also shes british, theres goats and sheep all over the places, shes probably seen hundreds of goats driving around and been taken to a farm with her school to feed them.

Jonathan Blaze

Great season. Nice bookend with the first scene of the season is Mark S. running through the hallways alone and ends with him running through the hallways again, but this time with Helly R.