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What a fantstic episode, 'proud' really doesn't cover how I feeling towards Charlie right now, what a strong kid 😭

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Elizabeth Gates

Eating disorders are not always related to OCD, but I posit for your consideration - Charlie's insistence on things being "perfect," including rewrapping Nick's present 3x. Also, you asked about Charlie grabbing his arm - at the end of S2, he did talk about his past behavior of cutting.

Harry Allen

THANK YOU, I didn't wanna bring it up incase I was wrong but my brain was trying to remind me about the self harm. Even more concerned now 😭

Emily Brown

Pink and green were very prominent colors in S2 also. I think they are the N&C couple colors. In S1 it was established that yellow is Charlie’s color and blue is Nick’s. I’ve always thought of it in the show as green is obviously yellow and blue mixed together and pink often being associated with hearts or love.

Nick22

I just started this and totally unrelated but those Lego sets are sick!

Elizabeth chris

In the conversation with Nick I feel that he used the word fix because that was what Charlie said he didn't want Nick to do, more specifically that he didn't want Nick to see him as something he needed to fix, and Nick was trying to acknowledge that request while still reaching out to help the person he loves so much. At least that's how I saw Nick's use of that word. That it tied back to the end of season two.

Silme Elen

I think with Tara it's about pressure. The better you are, the more is expected of you, the greater the peer pressure is.

Cole

They are set to live in Kent! (In the comics I believe it is in Kent, but in the show it is the fictional town Truham directly outside of Kent)

Cole

Nick getting someone else a gift on his own birthday is one of the most Nick things ever lmao

Elizabeth Gates

Growing up my mom was genuinely confused that I didn't like things I was good at. Because being talented in something somehow automatically meant I would want to do it. So I think that's what Tara is going through, too. Not just the pressure of trying to succeed, but knowing that succeeding in that way isn't really what you want either.

Charlie

It does seem quick that we’ve reached the point where Charlie is asking for help here, but that’s really only if you’re looking at it through the lens of S3 itself. All of Charlie’s mental health struggles started the year prior when he was getting bullied daily and he began to s*lf h*rm. That’s also where the ED developed. I certainly don’t want to make assumptions about any other mental health issues he may have/have had prior to this, as these behaviors often go hand in hand with other mental health concerns. In the comics, **SPOILER** we learn a bit more about Charlie’s home life and his relationship with his mother, and her characterization there is a bit different than in the show. IMO, that plays a bit into what we’re seeing with Charlie’s situation. All this is to say that Charlie’s full uphill journey from suffering to asking for help has been longer than what we’ve seen onscreen. It’s one of the drawbacks that short episode lengths and such really have on the storytelling, but I still think they did a fantastic job this season with getting Charlie to this point and with bringing the audience along with him. It has been an emotional gut-punch for sure, and it has honestly brought up a lot of buried emotions from my own mental health struggles (not necessarily a bad thing). This show is such a treasure.

Nyssa Rawther 🍉

I've never been prouder of any character than I am of Charlie. Nick is a very close second, considering how well he's handling this and how much he's managed to help Charlie at 16/17. I was a bloody mess at that age. Couldn't help myself on any given day and there he is, researching, taking great advice from the right people and putting it all to good use to help someone he loves so dearly. Good job, both of them!

Nyssa Rawther 🍉

Speaking as someone who IS aromantic and asexual, it is highly different for us than it would be for someone allo to think of "being single". For someone allo, it's almost like "oh I'm enjoying my single life and my freedom. Partyyyy!" Even when the party is just as low key as going on holiday alone or having time by yourself to binge a show and stay in. For someone aroace (and ofc there's a whole spectrum there that is wildly different on both ends but I'm speaking generally) it's not as simple. There's no "one day I'll fall in love and have a partner and it'll be great" moment. For my own experience with my aroace identity, I knew from the beginning I'd never want or have that. I am perfectly fine with it. I get annoyed when people go "you will have to find someone because of xyz" because being in a relationship, getting married, having kids IS the end goal for 99% of people even today (I've actually had someone tell me that if I don't find a spouse I'll end up going insane one day like...wtf 🧐🧐). But even having never wanted that (the way Isaac used to like the idea of), I do have moments where I feel sad for myself. Like...I think about how I'll never have someone who IS there for me, who I can lean on. I think about how when I'm old and grey, I'm gonna have to just take care of myself and not have anyone to care for me too. I think about how scary that can be in a lot of situations (what if I get seriously ill one day? I'll just be alone). As someone who wants to travel but is chronically shy and directionally challenged, I sort of feel like that's not really an option for me. Obviously Isaac is different because he literally has the best friend group ever but these are all things that I think he must already be thinking of (he did mention that it's changed what he knows of his future) because he would question how much can he really depend on his friends for if they're all coupled up and he's felt like a 3rd wheel for months?