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Invincible 3x02 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Thomas Corp

Thoughts upon completion of the episode were that I knew that this was going to be a perfect demonstration of how your style of reactions are so perfect, Jess. I was right. Conflicted feelings, messiness abounding, Cecil backstory. I mean, it’s not our birthdays until Spring, April for me, May for you, but I think we both got early birthday presents with this one. Cecil getting a backstory episode wasn’t on my bingo card, but since he is my favorite, I’m very happy with it. Interesting to see him back when his soul was less worn down and damaged broken. Gnarly as hell what happened to him, and how it finally explains his scars. And he knows well that our scars have the power to remind us that the past was real. We have an FX theme going on here. Boyd Crowder is in charge of the Global Defense Agency, and his predecessor was Mike Milligan. Damn. Fantastic to reveal that he was suspicious of Omni-Man from the get-go and was willing to work with him so long as Omni-Man was being helpful. Look how that panned out. Bringing us to the big talking points. Here again, one of those things where you say both sides are right or at least have valid points and arguments. Leading to the inevitable exchange where someone says, “He’s right, and he’s right? They can’t both be right!” and you reply, “You know...you are also right.” Mark’s moral compass is such that he has a rather unyielding absolute which he deals in. Considering what happened with his father, the trauma of that, not to mention the now lingering guilt and trauma of his killing Angstrom, the mentality makes sense. The flip side is that Cecil takes the world that he lives in and knows he REALLY cannot afford to be wide-eyed about anything. And given his Viltrumite experiences up to this point, his actions here aren’t the least understandable things in the world. It’s like Batman having his contingency plans with the Justice League. You and I both loved the recurring line about being a good guy. Cecil knows it: He’s a bad man, a monster. He can live with that as it means he keeps the other monsters from the door. I admit I lean toward being on Cecil’s side, and he was trying to deescalate, alas, Mark was not having it. I will say that when Mark says what he says, I observed, “Ah, the direct approach. I admire that in a man with a mask.” And Cecil shows he still has some restraint as he avoids downing Mark when there’s risk of civilian casualties. The image of Mark throttling Cecil is something that I knew of in advance as the internet is unkind. Your reaction to that, and everything about the conflict exceeds all expectations, Jess. Said conflict also fractures the team. Reaches fever pitch when Rex got Immortal mad, which, yeah, I think it’s not the best idea to say the word “assassinate” around Immortal. Interesting to see who left and who stayed. Feel for Shapesmith as he sounds like he wanted to leave. Like how you appreciated how Rex weighed the options. It is logical. Which, yeah, he is Spock. (When he’s in the robot form, anyway.) Great how Samson is in sort of the middle ground. More than twenty years since my introduction to him, Khary continues to be so great. Much though I’m not into the romance plotline as the handful of superhero/villain romances that I absurdly invested in, the Mark and Eve relationship is progressing nicely; we seem to be on the same page on appreciating the honesty and open communication. Speaking of the latter, nice that Mark informs William and Rick about Sinclair. Both of them were very sweet with their words to Mark. Bringing us to Debbie. She’s on the date, they play it as cute, and yet my dread is through the roof as it’s difficult to not think of a certain infamous character that Cliff is well known for. The guy could honestly be a complete sweetheart, and yet, still, the dread abounds. You, I’d imagine, don’t quite have the worry as you haven’t seen a certain film. Plus, I surmise that you see Cliff, and you’d first think of his Walking Dead character. There’s also Debbie’s line of being twenty years out of practice, dating-wise. ...Sounds like rookie numbers. I do love your love for her being the loving mom to Oliver. I’d talk more, but you already covered a lot of it so perfectly already, Jess. I don’t think I can improve on that. I add that I hear your statement about the leading comments. I’ve not read the comics, but I think I know something that’s coming as, again, unkind internet. Unclear on specifics; when we get to it, I’ll tell you. Until then, thank you for the most excellent and perfect reaction, Jess.

Ryan

After the premiere I found myself just a tad underwhelmed, and after a while of thinking it over I figured it was because this show is so often a devastating attack on what we think of as a superhero story, and now it seemed like the show might have been around long enough that it created its own new normal and became just another superhero story. So this was a big relief as we see there's still plenty of bite they're willing to give it. I would have been perfectly fine if we never got any backstory on Cecil and that scar just remained a vague sign that he's been through serious shit. But this worked so much better than I ever thought it would, showing that he used to be not that different from Mark until he ran into an explosion way bigger than his thumb. Great move leaving his cleaning up the prison completely to our imagination, aided by what we know about him already. The confirmation that he was onto Nolan from the start gives some great rewatch value too. And at the end you can practically hear his inner monologue: "I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But the most damning thing of all, I think I can live with it." What really makes this whole conflict hurt is that, maybe even more than Civil War itself, no one is wrong. Though I imagine they'd still just shout at Dave Mason to shut the hell up. It's very important to remember that we learned last season Mark not being a genocidal psychopath is an infinitesimal glitch in the multiverse, and I did find myself thinking everyone was being way too hard on Darkwing (maybe if we'd actually gotten to see some of the bad stuff he did, it would be easier to take this argument). And as for Sinclair, well, not being voiced by Ezra Miller anymore is a big step forward. It also really doesn't help that the best comforting words Eve can come up with are "You don't kill if you can help it." I've mentioned a few times that I love when a story trusts us to recognize something without any dialogue pointing it out, and here we get a big one with how similar Guardians HQ looks after the fight to when Nolan was finished with it, which has to be on the Immortal's mind and informs the decision he makes. Once again I'm left with absolutely no clue where things could go from here, though Oliver's eagerness for Mark to kill Cecil is a pretty big red flag that Debbie will want to keep an eye on.

Ryan
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The movie that got John Williams his first Oscar is definitely one to take a few lessons from. And in addition to the quotes we both came up with for Cecil, another just popped in my head. "Deep down, in a place you don't like to talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall."

Thomas Corp
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The thing of the show is so often a devastating attack on what we think of as a superhero story is right out the gate with the last scene of the series premiere that is tailor made for reaction channels. The one downside is that it leaves you on guard. Like Raiders of the Lost Ark, the big climax is a shocking thing when you see it for the first time. Going into the subsequent films, you now expect future scenes like that. And it is a big strength of the show that just when you think that it created its own new normal and became just another superhero story as you put it, it bares its fangs again. Shared thing of thinking that Cecil’s scars would never get explained; that they’d simply be good shorthand for him being a grizzled old dog who has seen things we people wouldn’t believe. Love the before and after like how he went through the similar arc back in his Cooper days before his world got upended, at the same time as he met the Twin Peaks Cooper. Good note on the prison clean-up. What was great about the first season was the thing of Omni-Man’s bullshit cover story was too neat, hence Cecil not buying it. To now know he always was onto Omni-Man since their first meeting adds a great wrinkle. That inner monologue is one you can hear, though I ponder what Q would say about how easy Cecil is to provoke. And good addition with the Colonel Jessup quote. This does outdo Civil War in terms of neither side is wrong. Certainly, we have the knowledge of the multiversal madness, which further shows whilst extreme, Cecil’s actions aren’t unfounded. They do have the strong “Take our word for it.” energy with Darkwing. Meaning, if the reports are genuine, he outdid Batffleck in terms of the killing, maybe? See you had a similar joke about Sinclair. When I was watching the episode, I quipped, “He’s already been Darrined, don’t worry about it.” (Reminds me to that if there was going to be anymore of the Fantastic Beasts films, their character there had a good spot where they could just be killed offscreen.) That is telling that Eve can only offer that one line. Forgot to mention that in my own comment about the stanzas rhyming with the big slaughter that Onmi-Man had in the premiere. I think George Lucas would get jealous of how this show recalls the past events as expertly as it does. The whole thing probably triggered Immortal some, yes. Haven’t seen the next episode just yet. And yeah, considering Oliver seems more eager to kill than most Targaryens, Debbie might want to keep a close eye on that red flag.