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Classic Who "The Ultimate Foe" Parts 1&2 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Andrew Vignaux

"In all my travellings throughout the universe I have battled against evil, against power-mad conspirators. I should have stayed here. ... Power-mad conspirators, Daleks, Sontarans, Cybermen, they're still in the nursery compared to us. Ten million years of absolute power, that's what it takes to be really corrupt.", The Doctor, "The Ultimate Foe" The final episode went through several major script changes after the death of Robert Holmes left it unfinished. The script editor, Eric Saward, had a go at finishing it, but Saward was having problems with JNT and his version of the script were rejected, Saward resigned and did not allow his script to be used. So JNT went to Pip and Jane Baker ("Mark of the Rani", "Terror of the Vervoids") to finish the Trial arc but without access to the original script. "Just a minute! Did you call him the Doctor?", The Doctor, "The Ultimate Foe" Ooh, this is interesting - Doctor vs evil Doctor. Shocking, but I can understand it. "The Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation.", The Master, "The Ultimate Foe" Ok, since we no longer have the twelve-regeneration limit, the implication of this line has changed since I first heard it (pre New Who) and is now much more vague. However, the promise of the remainder of the Doctor's regenerations is now weirder. "I knew this was a mistake - my grip on reality's not too good at the best of times.", Sabalom Glitz, "The Ultimate Foe" It's nice to see Glitz again - not just for conspiracy exposition - or for the various double-crosses - or for the hypnotic fail. "This is a very odd waiting room. Where are the hopelessly out of date magazines.", The Doctor, "The Ultimate Foe" I like the transition to the beach - bwahahahahahaha! "The undiscovered country from whose bourn no traveller returns.", The Valeyard quoting Hamlet's famous "To be, or not to be" soliloquy, "The Ultimate Foe" I'm always here for a good Shakespeare quote. "It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.", The Doctor, "The Ultimate Foe" We love literary references - quoted while on a tumbril! You've got to believe Colin was enjoying this. BTW: This was filmed at the Gladstone Pottery Museum - have a look! https://maps.app.goo.gl/DEsRbPncB1q4zroi9 "Splendid, splendid. Listen to me. Are you listening, Sabalom Glitz?", "Not really. I was just wondering how many grotzits this little bauble cost you.", The Master and Glitz, "The Ultimate Foe" As mentioned above, I always like it when the Master fails his attempt at hypnotic influence. I love Jo ("Frontier in Space") - sorry, that just slipped out! "If I may, my lady? You are applying logical thought to a situation that recognises no logic.", Keeper of the Matrix, "The Ultimate Foe" We've seen the actor playing the original Keeper of the Matrix before - he is James Bree - seen as the Security Chief in "The War Games", and as Decider Nefred in "Full Circle". "Miss Perpugilliam Brown, is alive and well and living as a warrior queen with King Yrcanos.", Inquisitor, "The Ultimate Foe" No, no, no! Don't get me wrong, I like Peri and and I like Yrcanos - but I love the fact that Peri had that shocking end to her story and I don't need to have it changed! I really don't appreciate it when the Doctor Who writers decide to weaken a shock from a previous story - i.e. I didn't like Rose's return or the Clara resolution - just leave them permanently separated or dead. Ok, I'm a hypocrite because I loved it when we got to see Donna again. Here is the full quote from Nicola Bryant: "I was very happy with my original exit – that is to say, I loved the shaved head, the mind transplant and Yrcanos blowing my body to smithereens. It was dramatic, poignant and shocking. So of course, I hated it when they retconned (I'm told this is the word!) my exit." Ditto. "You know, I think I was rash in turning down that offer of the Presidency.", The Doctor, "The Ultimate Foe"

Joe Crammond

Nicola Bryant wasn't happy with Peri's ending either, she was satisfied with Peri being killed off, only for JNT to inform her the change of planes at her leaving do

Steve Webster
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Bob Holmes' original script for episode 13 - The Fantasy Factory - leaves no room for ambiguity. The Master tells the court that the Valeyard is the Doctor's "twelfth and final incarnation". After processing this revelation, the Doctor wittily says to Mel "Well, if he's really the twelfth Doctor perhaps I should start calling him the dockyard." We miss you, Robert Holmes.