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🖖Star Trek DS9 S01E12 Full Length Reaction (Patreon)

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S01E12 Vortex

We finally get an Odo episode! At first I wanted all the answers just like Odo does, but in the end I'm glad it was just beginning to plant the seeds of where I hope we can go with the character in the future. Engage! đŸ––

** See THIS COLLECTION for episodes posted in airdate order!
** We're following this watch order: STAR TREK EPISODE GUIDE BY AIRDATE

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Fanchman

I just finished my taxes. This is a nice reward to relax. Thank you!

Squeesher

Here's a "Once You've Seen It You Can't Unsee It" for you folks. The Miradorn nose-bridge, right above that, and then the forehead... Now where have I seen that before? 😜 (The following information is spoiler-free, and contains only information we know up to this point in the Trek timeline) To answer one of your questions , Bajor is in the Alpha Quadrant, so the Wormhole goes between the Alpha and Gamma Quadrants. Looking at the galaxy from "above", Alpha is lower left and contains systems such as Sol (Earth is here), Bajor, and Cardassia. Beta Quadrant is lower right, and contains the home systems of the Klingons and Romulans. Gamma is upper left, and the other end of the Wormhole is said to be around 70,000 light years away from Bajor. Finally, the Delta Quadrant is the upper right, and the only thing the Federation knows about it is that the Borg were first encountered there when Q flung the Enterprise-D there during the episode Q Who in S2 TNG. Hope that helps a bit! Lovely reaction as always, Jen!

Fanchman

To answer your question, the Federation and most of the species you've seen in the Star Trek universe are in the Alpha Quadrant.

Ryan Fisher

I don’t think I’ve watched this one in 30 years. I remember there were a minor aspect of Odo they hadn’t quite worked out yet - very minor - that is handled a bit oddly here. Still a great guest star!

Lee

This has always been one of my favorite first season episodes. Not only does it drop some narrative bread crumbs for Odo's journey to locate his people, it also serves to demonstrate the grey morality on the station. Croden is shown to be a thief, a killer, and a liar, yet by the end of the episode, I'm happy to see him reunited with his daughter and safely free from the totalitarian government of his homeworld. Things on the station are never as black and white as they would be on a Federation starship, and that's why DS9 is such a compelling show.

John DiGiantomasso

I'm heading out on a business trip; so glad I was able to catch this before I left. You are very perceptive, and you are correct that you will learn everythin about Odo (and the doctor) over seven seasons. Two huge differences between TNG and DS9: 1) As Khan said while aboard the USS Reliant, "We're all one big happy fleet!" That was Roddenberry's vision. Everybody got along, and everybody was heroic. 2) Every episode ended with everything being neatly wrapped up with a pretty little bow, and we started anew fresh and ready for the next story the following week. (With the occasional two-part cliffhanger now and again.) In DS9, the show runners explored a universe without these established conventions. 1) In DS9 not everybody is on the same team, and as you observed there are a lot of new races with very different ways and very different motives. Good characters and shady characters, and with common failings as opposed to unyeilding heroics. Sometimes the shady characters will be driven to do fully heroic things. And on occasion the heroic characters will be driven to do shady things. 2) DS9 is serialized, and the story builds week to week. The threads grow and grow into explosve climax sequences. They go into incredible depths to detail the backgrounds of all the main characters, and many of the lesser characters, too. You will know more about most of them than you do about any of the TNG characters. It is a VERY dufferent type of storytelling. And it is amazing. You don't have to keep thinking. "I hope we learn more about this character." You WILL learn more. A lot more. Sometimes more than you want to know! The result is that you will really understand and appreciate this amazing cast of diverse individuals and how they are carefully assembled to form the perfect team.

RSK1995

Ours is called the Alpha Quadrant. The galaxy is divided into 4: Alpha, Beta, Delta and Gamma

Sykonee

S1 seems to have a forever rep' of having only 2-3 good episodes worth watching, but I'd rank the mid-season run starting here is just as vital to the show's overall arc as anything else. Yes, even *that* episode coming soon. ;)

Geoff S.

Get this man a burger! I'm crying!! 😂😂 I happened to be drinking out of a glass that looks almost exactly the the one that Odo transformed himself into as I was watching this. Very weird.

Ian

Could have picked anything but " get this man a burger " was brilliant lol Jen you're friggin awesome 😂🍔🖖 I'm still going to call them shuttles no matter what đŸ€· a snickers is still a marathon , starburst are still opel fruits , gif is still jif 😉 if you know you know 🙂

Harmony through Time

Starts calm one expects little then bam, good watching with you Jen

Clay F

Nice to have O'Brien. I like this episode. Quark didn't want Odo to be killed.

Gåbor Árki

Odo’s transformations were used sparingly, as CGI was still expensive in the early 90s, especially for a TV show. The groundbreaking liquid metal effects in Terminator 2 had only been achieved about a year and a half before these episodes aired, and Jurassic Park is a few months away. I don’t recall the exact figure, but each of Odo’s transformations cost somewhere around $50,000, and was a significant portion of the effects budget of the episodes.

Brian Leonard

This was my first episode of Star Trek. I had read the character descriptions when the show debuted and I was really interested in Odo. When I read the description of this episode in the newspapers tv book, I had to watch it. After watching this episode, I decided to try TOS. Then, I saw a TNG episode, and I was hooked.

Julian San

As everyone has stated, most of Star Trek takes place in the Alpha Quadrant. But to visualize it, if you look at the whole of the Milky Way Galaxy with Earth’s position in the lower center, Alpha is lower left, Beta is lower right, Gamma is upper left and Delta is upper right.

Michael Tuffin

Jen, a lot of S1 stuff gets retconned down the line. It’s perfectly acceptable to skip to “Duet” an “In the Hands of the Prophets” and then roll into season 2. I know you’re following air dates, though, but S1 just has a lot of pedantic storytelling that has no relevance on what’s to come.

Dustin Denner

Jen: You want to know how large DS9 is, its basic layout and location: Deep Space Nine and Bajor are located in the Alpha Quadrant. It's overall diameter is 1451.82 meters and overall height is 969.26 meters. It consists of 98 levels. The outer ring is the docking ring, the inner ring is the habitat ring, and the center is the promenade with ops at the top and the fusion reactor at the bottom. The three pylons on the dorsal and ventral sides of the outer docking ring, are additional docking ports. There is a photo of the promenade directory here: https://i0.wp.com/continuingmissionsta.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/promenad.png?resize=1280%2C799&ssl=1

Bobby Coolbreeze

There is a Deep Space Nine reference manual that was released by pocket books in 1998 but you may have to wait till you watch Season 3-4 because the cover and its contents contain spoilers lol I’m sure you can find other sources online be beware spoilers in your search.

Bobby Coolbreeze

Morn’s character is a running gag on the show and he is Quark’s most regular patron and is based on Norm from Cheers! Morn’s name backwards is Norm lol

Bobby Coolbreeze

Funny thing and won’t spoil anything! Watching this episode for the first time since it aired I realized some things plot wise for future episodes. This was the first time we try to figure out who Odo is and where he came from? I used to tape these episodes on VHS to watch them again after they aired and would watch each episode the next day to see if missed anything. Back then it was pretty much a forgettable episode from season one. Watching it now and the episode is pretty much more important to the overall arc to the series. Fascinating!

Chris Biebel

A little bit of real science to spoil things. ;-) In much the same way asteroid fields are misrepresented in sci-fi (C3-PO's odds of navigating one are way off. The asteroids are actually very far away from each other. If they were as close as shown in film, they'd end up attracted to each other by gravity), Nebulas are misrepresented. They aren't dense at all. It's just that they're so big that when we look at them from Earth, even though their particles are seriously scattered from each other, they look dense due to the thickness of the Nebula. It's kind of like taking a glass window, which is transparent, and adding about 1,000 more windows behind it. It would be very hard to see through that even though seeing through one window is easy.

Andrew Roach

To offset a prior comment, please don't skip any episodes, season 1 and 2 are generally regarded as weaker but they are still solid. I am not sure where you hope we go with Odo, but you have no idea hehehe...

Juan Pablo De La Fuente
>>167240415

Come on! give her the benefit of enjoy the entire show. Even season 1; perhaps from season 3 in advance, make a most enjoyable experience.

Juan Pablo De La Fuente
>>167218429

The United Federation of Planets its located on the Alpha Quadrant, Romulan and Klingon Empire are located in the Beta Quadrant (separated from The Federation by the Neutral Zone ), and on DS9 we are now commencing to know and explore the Gamma Quadrant. Finally, the Delta Quadrant is completely unknown (at this point jeje.)

Juan Pablo De La Fuente

The United Federation of Planets its located on the Alpha Quadrant, Romulan and Klingon Empire are located in the Beta Quadrant (separated from The Federation by the Neutral Zone ), and on DS9 we are now commencing to know and explore the Gamma Quadrant. Finally, the Delta Quadrant is completely unknown (at this point jeje.)

Michael Tuffin
>>167240415

I never said she shouldn’t watch filler, only that it’s unnecessary. S1 has maybe four watchable episodes, besides the pilot. S2 has “essential” episodes and plenty of fluff.

Paul Sophocleous

The Miradorn twins were played by one person, Randy Oglesby, who plays several roles over a few different Trek series.

Paul Sophocleous
>>167261666

There was a line in the pilot episode that establishes that he was found in space and doesn't know where he came from.

Bobby Coolbreeze
>>167261666

Yes but this episode established more of things to come without saying too much. I didn’t think of this episode later in the series when certain things came to light.

Bobby Coolbreeze
>>167240415

Duet is a must watch first and foremost for the acting and a for better understanding of the relationship between 2 certain alien cultures

Michael Tuffin
>>167240415

Duet is among the most highly ranked episodes and must see TV from S1. S2 still has a lot of crap, but also must-see episodes that are either just plain fun or foreshadow future episodes. The first are an arc. Invasive procedures and Melora are junk. Rules of Aquisition is important because it is the first mention of the series' big bad.

rubberkidney

your best ds9 performance to date

Laura Thornley
>>167189595

In addition, Bajor (and Cardassia) are near the centre of the Alpha Quadrant, with Earth being on the far edge (counter-clockwise from the Galactic Core) and the Klingon Empire being on the near edge (clockwise) of the Beta Quadrant. The other side of the Alpha Quadrant isn't much explored, but the Tholians and Breen live there.

Kristin D
>>167240415

WHY are you suggesting that she skip these two episodes? She shouldn't skip any episode of this series.

Kristin D
>>167240415

She absolutely should NOT skip Duet. It's a top tier episode.