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The Last Dance - Episode 2 (Patreon)

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2023-08-17 12:00:06
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Episode 2 of this Epic Series! Scottie Pippin rises from obscurity to become one of the NBAs best players! An injury early in Michael’s career sows distrust with Bull‘s Management. 

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Bailey Jones

In the recent years scottie has said some crazy stuff. He flip flops between whether mj is the goat or lebron. Just last month he said this Pippen described Jordan as a “horrible player.” “I’ve seen Michael Jordan play before I came to the Bulls. You guys have seen him play … He was horrible to play with. It was all 1-on-1, shooting bad shots. All of a sudden, we become a team and we start winning. Everybody forgot who he was. He was a player who was really not at the top of his category. It was scoring.”

K D

It was painful to hear you haven't heard of Dr. J. I'm enjoying the patreon content as a place for you to put your blocked content!

Jacob Mestelle

Julius “Dr. J” Erving was a star in the 70s-80s and one of the NBA’s best-ever players. He was known for his high flying dunks and legendary afro haha I’m pretty high on Scottie Pippen the player. It’s no coincidence that Jordan finally started winning after Pippen (and Phil Jackson) joined the team. That said, Scottie does seem to have a bit of an ego that threatened to ruin what the Bulls had going and we haven’t seen the last of Pippen’s selfishness in this series. Still, he was massively underrated both financially and culturally so it’s hard for me to blame him too much. He deserved more than he got and even to this day he is overlooked far too much. I have a lot of respect for Jordan’s competitiveness. We’ll never see another like him. That said, I am a bit on the side of management regarding his injury. While I think the minutes restriction was too harsh risking your career only to squeak in the last playoff spot and go up against possibly the greatest team of all-time (‘85-86 Celtics) isn’t worth it in my opinion. I don’t support “tanking” (purposely losing to get better draft picks) but I almost feel being mediocre is worse than being awful. For example, I’m a big Milwaukee Bucks fan and it was hard being a Bucks fan from the mid-2000s to early 2010s. They had no identity, they weren’t good enough to make a playoff run nor were they bad enough to get a high, franchise-changing pick. They were just…there. It wasn’t until they hit the jackpot with drafting Giannis that everything changed (but not right away). During Giannis’ rookie season the Bucks had one of the worst seasons in league history yet that team was so exciting to follow because it finally felt like there was a path to success in the future. To summarize, while I don’t support fully tanking I do think there’s value in recognizing your limitations as a team and plan for the future. In Michael’s case, they weren’t asking him to lose on purpose, they were asking him to not risk his future and make sure he was fully healed. It turned out that he didn’t get hurt and he gave one of the best performances in playoff history but that’s a massive risk we’ve seen not pay off for other players in similar situations. I’m loving this series! It really opens up great discussions about the human aspect of sports that I find so compelling. I love highlights as much as anyone but I much prefer deep dives into the people that make up the legends of sport because at the end of the day that’s all they are, people with all the flaws and complexities of you and me. Can’t wait for the next one!

K D

The complexities of their character, competitiveness, and drive both within their leagues and their teams, give a better understanding of the determination and struggle they must endure to reach and stay at their peak. I think understanding the stories as opposed to just the highlights creates the opportunity to understand the significance of the accomplishments.

Travis Farley

I think sibling fights are very regular even still. I grew up in the 90s and constantly fought my brothers and neighborhood kids (usually forced by older brother). A fist fight after any game seemed pretty normal for along time. Given, we were kids. No real damage lol.

Travis Farley
>>115480569

Also don't want to be THAT guy...but Lebron and Kobe have had much better all around stat performances...

DN Reacts
>>115424624

Thanks for the info! Didn’t know he was saying those things about Michael!

DN Reacts
>>115429213

Great comment! Really appreciate you taking the time on this 🙏🏼 glad you’re enjoying the series along with us!

Jeff

Some clarifying info: Bill Clinton was the governor of Arkansas at that time, they have a very small population so he would have heard about Scottie. The guy at 12:50 is Charles Oakley, known for being a great defender and a great asshole. The Super Sonics franchise actually moved to Oklahoma City, Kevin Durant began his career in Seattle.

Brad Butcher

Although not near the player as he was, Pippen did go on to Portland and Houston and made 50 million plus after this season

Pete Finch

Damo, are you in sports management? If so, you guys should make content on that. You've got a lot of fans who were former or current players (and I bet you were one too) so unless you have some kind of NDA on talking about your work, that would be a great line of videos from the other side of sports

Josh Hanson

There's a great documentary on Julius Erving – Dr J, called "The Doctor." He was like the Michael Jordan of the '70s in terms of athleticism and dunking ability. Michael was very inspired by his play.

Alex Drey

Love the reactions guys I'm only 18 minutes in to this one but just had to add on the comments on Pippen's about how its 58 million in todays money how much money do you need you also have to take in account his agent/lawyers/income tax all would take a huge chunk of that money obviously to the average person it is loads of money but just wanted to add that in.