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Chapter 993: True to Yourself (Patreon)

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Oddrey

3rd

Jacob Holmes

I've known for years Knowledge was going to be the big bad at the end of the story, and I'm still betting the second moon of palimustus will play a role. So happy to get confirmation

Alexander Dupree

He totally 100% fine what’s anyone talking about!?

mockery jones

I'm not going to even pretend I understand what is being hidden from both the avatar and the reader. Probably have been enough clues but I'm not smart enough to put them together. TBH at this point were I Avatar Jason I would be seriously considering Raythe and Dawn as untrustworthy allies.

Aaron Schwartz

I miss the first book. Remember that time Thadwick tried to half ass a landgrab scheme, and then Jason got to be Batman for a couple of chapters? That was awesome.

Dylan Alexander

They shouldn’t be worried about him. In all honesty he’s so far above them that they can’t really do anything. And he’s definitely right that humanity needs to do this on their own, this is how they learn. Jason can’t keep solving all the issues at play for them, though as he’s the MC I doubt he won’t intervene.

Bryan Jackson

I fucking knew Knowledge was going to be the problem

Unwillingmainer

Honestly, more people should worry about Jason. Though, I bet there are entire departments in governments that only do that.

Jon Stanfield

TYFTC! Jason's taking the fact that he has to hide stuff from his prime avatar about as well as I expected. I'm looking forward to the Arabelle chapter that's gotta be coming up soon, and I'm wondering if Jason will continue to follow Raythes lead on deciding to hide stuff from himself. It's fascinating to be in the same position, as the reader, as Jason's prime avatar but not as Jason, the Great God King amalgamation.

Dave

Tyftc

Jarrett Glass

A colonizing force from Pallimustus?!... I hate that I'm saying this but Monday can't come quickly enough.

Justin Butler

Just tell them about the Messengers he was smart enough to know. C'monnnnnnn

David
>>167063506

It happens every single time and then there’s the hand wringing, moping, and so on. At some point, I wouldn’t be able to deal with them any longer.

Ligeia

I am still clueless, and willing to stay that way because no matter what I think is going to happen, Shirt still always surprises me. Good job, Shirt, you have truly become the master of the cliffhanger! And that's real admiration -- in addition to my ongoing frustration about the whole thing!!! TYFTC, though...

Azmoranth

I feel like I'm so dense, what is the bad news!

Kyle Hunter
>>167063266

So did knowledge send the outworlder back to earth for the grid and essence society setups or was it purity?

DrRoq

Oh it's bad bad isn't it? Whatever "The Event" is. We're not gonna enjoy it are we Shirt?

Leon Cleland

I’ve been worried about Jason since he threw himself off the side of a mountainside riding a magical waterfall get with the times ladies 😂

Tina Young

'She gave a wear sigh before continuing.' Should that read 'weary'

FabianTheGreat

Shirtaloon, I love how you wrote everyone's reactions to the avatar manipulation. It makes perfect sense for them to trust him on a lot of things, but not something so alien to them as controlling avatars in ways mortal bodies cannot do to themselves

Robert Landers

Can’t they just go to his universe and just ask what’s up?

Jon Stanfield
>>167063602

After reading again, I realize I missed the part about Knowledge (curse my skimming!) If anyone else knows context I've missed about what Knowledge has done / the role she apparently is playing in this I'd love to know

Jacob Holmes
>>167063266

No confirmation yet, but when I made a reddit thread about this I speculated it was Knowledge, given some of Farah's remarks about the scale and complexity of the grid, and Mr Norths comments I've always assumed it was Knowledge. The fact that not a single person who actually knows has ever said it was purity, only saying the founder served a palimustus god is a pretty big red flag for me

mockery jones
>>167063602

maybe it's implied. after all, knowledge has been privvy to purity/disguise's plan presumably since the moment it was hatched. Maybe she's making the play I expected of Disguise which is becoming the only god of earth.

Nick

Jason is starting to talk like mr. North. I don't like the idea of Jason doing what he's supposed to do tbh, I'll be a little disappointed if he doesn't work out how to have his cake and eat it too.

Demi

KNOWLEDGEEEEE WHAT ARE YOU COOKING ??!!?

Jacob Goodrich
>>167063520

Ohhhh shit. Thats it. That's why he has to hide information from his prime avatar so the god of knowledge can't abuse it

Scott Way

My prediction: earth and pallimastus are going to merge in some way. 2 planets becoming 1 or something

Dylan Alexander
>>167064429

I’d rather it not work out tbh because everything else seems to. For once I’d like it if Jason didn’t save the day and he actually have to deal with the consequences.

Michael Fannon

So stab in the dark here: the big bad threat is a holy crusade. Once the bridge stabilizes, the gods will send forth missonaries and warriors to Earth. Why? To prevent rivals from forming on Earth, as a counter to the dark gods doing it, and to gain authority and new areas. There is no god of computers for example, so Knowledge could claim that authority for herself or create a subservient god. The various great astal being cults, like the order of the reaper, will probably get involved too. This gets even worse once people realize that the purtiy artifact was on Earth, is a human, and Jason is the one that has her. It gets even worse with the Astral kings and the unorthodoxy start having battles, because why not. Now the real kicker is that the only chance they have against the onslaught would be to have a few diamond rankers, but once they do that, then the universe opens up to everything. Oh, fun times ahead.

Michael Fannon
>>167064070

Because then they would know. And then Knowledge or beings like her would know. Operational security takes on a whole new level when dealing with cosmic forces.

Hunter
>>167063352

Jason and Raythe brought up Travis’s wife not knowing something. So the popular guess right now is this has something to do with knowledge or maybe not who fucking knows.

John Collier
>>167064070

No because once someone on the planet knows what’s happening gods like knowledge will automatically know. The comment about Travis’s girlfriend (Gabrielle) who is a priests of knowledge is the hint, I’m assuming the pali gods are coming to earth

Andrew Pettit

Can't wait for the next chapter, wonderfully done sir.

SmokeJam
>>167064070

They could, but even in his universe he is acting through avatars. As long as he consciously decides to make them forget about that, I do not believe they will actually get an answer.

james foster
>>167063459

I just listened to that yesterday, those first books were so fun... and now Clive might have an actual wife. Sigh.

Pierce

Theory: All this has been knowledge’s plan from the start. It wasn’t a purity / fake purity priest who was the founder. It was a Knowledge priest. That’s who the ‘she’ is from when Mr North visited Jason’s territory in book six

RonGAR
>>167065082

Good Thinking. Liking these points you've made.

Daniel Wills
>>167067098

There was a crackpot Reddit theory sometime ago that was this and now I owe them an apology. The line about Travis’ wife connects too many dots. Gold rank is when they can start using “will.”

RonGAR

It looks like Jason left himself a way out—or, more precisely, a way to prepare for the incoming trouble while also knowing nothing about it. Too bad he had to make himself and his decisions suspect to the closest ppl to him, in order to carry out this mission under the table. Hopefully, they trust him enough to 'just go with it'. ------- Honestly, when did Jason become the 'Go-To' guy to solve all of the cosmo's problems? This seems like a job for the great astral beings and elder gods, not a new fledgling demi god, who is fighting against accepting his god-hood as much as possible, so he can 'pretend' to play a 'Gold' and pall around with his friends/teammates in order to make up for lost time. And if they have to rely on him, shouldn't the Elder gods, come to him with a solution or a plan?! Because to my mind, if they are powerful enough to clean up the 'aftermath', they should be powerful enough to PREVENT whatever is going to happen from happening. #Justsaying

Jeff

I don't quite understand why potential planetary annihilation gets Jason to enter a time loop. How and why exactly amd what about the GAB putting a stop to it

RonGAR
>>167064474

Knowlege already has an 'agent' on Earth. Gaberiel and Possibly Travis are probably using that cloud base tech to setup new temples all over the place.

mhaj58

Jason needs a break.

Anthony

I am freaking loving the development of his immortal mind and avatar state. Like.... not only the ethical/moral implications, but the very epistemological ramifcations. The approach to the time continuum has also been awesome! I am loving everything about this volume!

Jake Thorpe
>>167067098

I've always wondered why knowledge keeps sending her to Jason and paired her with Travis. She wanted an agent on Earth and the best way to do that would he with Jason and she isn't even aware of it herself.

NekoNoir

Fantastic chapter! Thanks Shirt 🍪

Ruth Ivimey-Cook
>>167063266

It just occurred to me that in book 1 Knowledge was disappointed 'not to be Jason's first' - first god that is. That suggests to me she already knew something about Jason before basically anyone else.

Anthony
>>167063778

I feel like Gary was just the warning shot across the bow. Like... we are in for a full blown Red Wedding. Which I am not okay with, Shirt, for what it's worth! If you ever see this comment buried in here.

BloodStorm

I really don’t know what to think or feel about this chapter

Malcolm Gray

I’m really curious as when we will find out what’s actually going on

Flojoe
>>167063266

At first I thought it would be the world phoenix but why would she care about a few divine territories, so I dumped that idea. And knowledge would be the only other "female" being with enough power/ influence that it matters. (That we are aware of)

Michael Romo

So this is going to come to a head where the team and him are at odds, Jason say f it and doesn't what he said he wouldn't and some how finds a way.

Bunny Waffles
>>167063973

I love when the concept of personality manipulation when the MC can do so to themselves. My favorite example is from Godclads where the MC eventually figures out a trick to incorporate the mindsets of others into his cognition and then shift his personality and viewpoint in real-time as needed to allow for greater tactical depth no matter the doctrine his foes might employ.

Tyler S.
>>167064826

I imagine most of the GABs believe that the only real way to save one of the 2 intersecting world dumplings is to eliminate one population and thus have one magic take over the other allowing for an easy merge, a lot harder way is to use transformation zone like boarders and balance the 2 to keep them from collapse. Raythe is probably worried he may attempt to manipulate time to save as many as possible

Michael Romo
>>167063726

They said Travis wife, so gambriella, her boss meaning knowledge. So the god is cooking up something. I never did trust her.

Invictus Red
>>167065082

Wait WTH did I miss a chapter? The girl that was with that team is hypothesized/confirmed to be the purity relic the Messengers were going to war over?

Telewyn
>>167068375

If fate exists and world timelines are not supposed to be synchronized, I propose that something on Palli requires something from Earth to move forward on Palli’s timeline (Purity’s artifact?). But without it, the world bridge acts like a record needle skipping tracks backwards.

Kaelan Spears
>>167065082

@FlareNight it's not about Raythe caring, it's about Jason caring enough to mess with time

Brave Badger

Perhaps the OG builder worked with knowledge to set this in motion and the new builder’s invasion was an attempt to stop it. Boris may have been unorthodoxy cohorts with the pretranscended new builder and has been watching over earth because he was in the know

Joe Foreman
>>167062275

We couldn't have timed it better either which i find funny both right at 11 mins no idea by how many seconds or milliseconds

Timothy

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like something big is coming to Star Wars and the crew from Star Trek can help, Dr Who knows how to solve it and only Frodo can do it.

Catherine

Well I always thought Knowledge was not right

Jacob Holmes
>>167068320

I'm fairly sure the current threat is something outside of the areas of great astral beings authority, and something that matters personally to Jason, no GABs asled him to get involved, and Wraythe only helps him because if she doesnt provide another path he will muck around with time, her GABs area of authority. The world phoenix for example, cares that Jason's home universe stays in one piece, but doesn't care what happens within that universe, outside of anything that threatens to tear it apart. The world phoenix used Jason as a pawn to build the bridge, and other great astral beings asked him to repair thr cosmic throne because he was the first one to meet the requirements to do so that they thought would relinquish the power when the task was done, literally everything else he's been through he brought onto himself with his hero complex

John goode

Am I the only one that is not ok with him doing this ? It just feels wrong and something Jason would not normally do stand for. He’s not taken no and stepped to lager foes this whole time. This feels more like something a god would do that he would 100% hate. Or am I crazy ?

ReadingObsessed

I wonder if baby Dawn was afraid of the dark. You know with her being born in a sun.

B-Slam

I just realised. Why did Dominion tell Jason to learn how to cut access to Knowledge from his prime avatar? It looked like that skill was learn off screen. But Dominion was talking about now with Raythe because he knows what Knowledge is upto.

Kalanaere

Wait let's go back to Travis and Wife. Oh snd feel for Danielle and Anna and Definitely Arabelle because this is about to become so far above they're realms of understanding into the GAB realms

Kalanaere
>>167073824

That's the point. It needs to be done, only Jason can actually get it done properly but it's not gonna be fun

Daniel is ŁØNE
>>167064429

Are we reading the same novel @Dylan Alexander ? Because I can't remember one time where Jason has saved the day or had to make a decision and they weren't consequences, to Him or others. Just because there isn't some super overt cosmic consequence doesn't mean that he doesn't have shit to deal with, hell he has lost friends, he has lost family, he has lost his identity, he has lost time, he has even lost his own life, he has damn near lost his fucking mind more than once, he has seen wars the likes of which many will never grasp and carries those scars in his soul, the guy has been physically, mentally, spiritually and metaphysically hurt to degrees that would be hard to explain without experience because he always had to make the decisions and be the impossible hero when no one else could and literally every one of those experiences has marked and changed him and those around him in ways that cannot be reversed or managed. There has almost never been a big decision, or mission impossible moment in this entire series where he didn't face consequences, big and small, personal and impersonal so I truly can't grasp how you can see he doesn't have to deal with consequences, time doesn't have to shatter and the world doesn't have to implode for it to count as a consequence.

social
>>167073824

Maybe a sign of Jason growing? Or maybe just a sign of his personal respect for Dawn, that he understands he can't approach this thing the same way? Yes, out of character for Jason, but I'm curious what happens next. Does he really fall in line, or does he pretend to fall in line, just to jump into it at the last moment? That said, I still would like to see Jason do the time-loop thing. Would love to see a Groundhog Day scene where he smashes his magical alarm clock (and how Shade would react!)

Daniel is ŁØNE
>>167063593

Everything ends up acceptable to those involved not fine, there has been far too much death, loss, sacrifice and trauma in this novel for stuff to be considered fine. Just because stuff ends on a relatively good outcome doesn't mean it is fine, when Jason came to earth for the first time he saved saved the fucking world which was ultimately a good outcome, but it cost Jason's relationships, the lives of his family and his mental stability, and we aren't even talking about the impersonal cost that was the death count during that period.

Kalanaere
>>167065082

Exactly, The GAB of Time, The Reaper even The Builder don't really give a damn if earth goes boom. It's children in a little tiny sandbox on their scale and occurs probably thousands of times a day across the multi-verse. What doesn't happen though, is an Original AK and one that can to a small degree wield the powers of the thrown. Jason could screw up sooo many things if he tried messing with Time so they need him to NOT do that just to save what they see as just a few million lives out of a few Sextillion

Alex Schellenberg

Is Jason entering his becoming monsters era??

Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter.

Kalanaere
>>167064826

I've thought that. Just couldn't figure out how exactly it would occur which is silly because I'm sure if WP and Builder and Sands all worked together it is simple

Zuzana Toulcová
>>167068633

Like he once said "I wait on the World to stop giving mě crap, but it never does, does it? It's time too suck it up and get it done." I'm probably paraphrasing a bit, but this is a long long time coming. Like from the moment he resolved the first transformation zone. The question is, will his prime avatar who doesn't know the Full story act as je normally would And what comes out of it.

Kalanaere
>>167063726

She's been glued to Jason since like day 2. Everyone fears Dominion but I think other than healer he might be the only one on Jason Side. We know Knowledge is sneaky, Death doesn't like him, Hero is Sanctioned, Fertility just wants Baby Asanos, Undeath hates him, we don't realky know much about disguise but it's safe to say not a Jason fan. God of Oceans probably indifferent

Zuzana Toulcová
>>167068375

I think its the other way around, because Travis' wife Gabriel. I'm a bit worried what, but if it is what I think it is, then why would a lot of people die?

Kalanaere
>>167063668

While unlikely. Its possible it could be Earth to Palli and it's going to be bloodshed. Palliative Diamonds would obliterate and Earh team that can't even fight at Gold level without an army

Zuzana Toulcová
>>167068320

Well I dissagree with the everything part but yeah, pretty much alkoholu everything. Aaaand I think that the "dialed down on empathy too much" might not have been entirely accidental - add a lot of people are gonna die & need to accept the outcome to not muck up the time. Huh, now that I think about it, when Dawn said that he already lost a battle he doesn't know he's fighting dirrectly ties with the bridge creation itself and what starts when it's finished. That it's about the Palli gods is a given I think, again because Travis' wife Gabriel - a priestess of godess Knowledge.

ABTelford

Well, I can see the ripple effects of distrust causing horrible disasters…I hope Shade steps in to help explain things and ameliorate fears. …but if not it’ll be a wild ride!

Zuzana Toulcová
>>167064474

They don't know. I think it's more that knowledge uses her personal inclinations to lay down the ground works and keep a few steps ahead of the other gods. She always played a long Game and she tried REALY hard to get Jason as an agent but je distrusts dieties to much so she gained no purchase. Gabriel was the next best thing.

Zuzana Toulcová
>>167064429

I agree with you whole heartedly (is that correct? Meh..) But! He often solves fights or finds some impossible wriggle room like when he teleported A LOT of ppl from that underwater mining complex in Rimaros.

Quinton
>>167073824

Jason as an Astral Nexus is 3 separate things in an already gestalt existence. We've seen in an earlier chapter when his avatar was slain the system administrator announced his death and then Hegemon was summoned which was his "God/Astral King" form. While yes Jason would never submit to the Authority of another being, here he is not submitting to authority, it is just the "Mortal" Jason and System Administrator submitting to the authority (not Authority) of his soul the Hegemon. But that's just a theory

Quinton

Eventually I'm sure Jason will reach apotheosis in the extreme, his prime avatars becoming astral beings of doom and morals. His astral king becoming recognized as Hegemon. His Godhood manifesting across worlds as the system administrator. This story has been a beautiful journey so far and I'm loving the read! Thank you for the chapter

Zuzana Toulcová
>>167063352

I get that, though Dawn's reluctance to meet Jason's eyes when she met him the last and Raythe's fortrigness somehow gives me the reason to trust.

RonGAR

Don't really see a problem with the Gods from Pallimustus all crossing over into Earth and setting up shop on new territory once Jason finishes the bridge. Seems like something that was always going to happen if someone took the time to think about it, their actions, and what the possible consequences of those actions would be. Don't know why it would result in millions, if not billions, of dead. Earth is at war already, is it not? The vampires won't go down easy, and there is still Simon out there pulling up Reality cores and making new creatures. Hmmm... on a sidenote. Don't know why Jason just doesn't use the system he gave to everyone to 'ping' and locate him and just end that threat. But hey, I guess we want to stretch that drama out for tension, I suppose. Guess he is being deliberately overlooked or saved for a critical moment or something. Like a...'Have an enemy at your back that you got distracted from and or 'forgot was there', attacking you at a critical time, kinda thing? ' On Pallimustus, there is still the messenger war happening and we have no updates on how that is going. Sooo I guess merging two worlds that are fully at war already, then adding new elements and factions would ABSOLUTELY make things worse. So I guess I answered my own question. But it is worse than that, no? What is worse is... When the Gods and messengers do descend upon Earth and Millions or Billions die, Jason is going to get ALL the blame. Because if it was him who set up the pathway between worlds. Some will understand, but most won't. Seems his destiny is to be the most hated man/god in two worlds. That's a good thing to turn your emotions down for. And it would surely be the end of his 'good time'.

Betsy R
>>167067098

Honestly couldn’t that comment about Gabrielle just be because she’s always had complicated feelings towards Jason and her view of his disrespect of the gods and the irony he now is one properly???

John Durrett
>>167074998

Danielle is the priest of knowledge right? She should be accustomed to information being compartmentalized

Kalanaere
>>167074998

No Danielle is Humpys mom, Jason political teacher, Arabella is a priestess of Healer, Rufuses Mom (Jasons current theraoist and side fling...dont tell Zara or Rufus that last part though) and Gabriella, Humpys ex and Travus current wife is the priestess of Knowledge

Soli116
>>167074998

@John No, Gabrielle is the knowledge priest. Danielle is Humphrey's mum.

John Durrett
>>167073824

Consequences. To not do it would be worse. Unless he pulls off the impossible which of course is going to happen

Kalanaere
>>167074998

Now that I think about it, Jason by be hitting on Danielle too ...nah Sophi would beat him lol

John Durrett
>>167073045

Hmm can knowledge and the other gods access earth if the bridge stabilizes and mana supports it.

Tom C

Jason just gotta do what he can to have no regrets. And even if he messes up, people will live and people will die. Can’t stop people from dying. Save those he can save. Embrace eternity. Etc etc TFTC

Brad Gammey

We're worried about Jason.

Richard
>>167072530

Is dawn Leia? Who got the pirate ship and is calling themselves star trek? Dr who is Clive and Frodo is Jason?

Adrian
>>167080511

Luckily, humanity has an incredibly short memory, and the winners get to write the press releases. If you're lucky (I'm looking at you Alexander 'The Great' ) it'll take a good 2 millennium before anyone really takes you to task

Betsy R
>>167073045

They still have a messenger war on palli so who knows if they’d have the numbers for another war front unless once the bridge is fully open it’ll finally be revealed that the artifact was taken to earth as part of that deal

Timothy
>>167072530

Hear I thought Jason as Gandolf and Clive was Picard. They will never catch up to the Rainbow dragon, Falcor.

Adrian
>>167068633

Needing a break is probably what leads to the time loop 😅

Naotsugu97

I think we are observing the greatest Macguffin since “pulp fiction”

Tavon LaChapelle
>>167080511

Now I'm thinking if the culture of earth via religion might be enough to sanction the gods to shift about

DirePants

Jason’s trusting nature bites him again. Unless the plan is to get his allies to lose trust in him, he’s doing what he always does: thinking like a human. Emotionally. He’s telling them, what he can, because he’d expect them to do the same and he would trust them. Instead of a god-like being, moving pieces on a board. He should have lied and acted as if he figured out something- even made up a story. Knowing how people would likely respond to him saying “trust me bro”. It’s what makes him interesting as character. I can still be furious with him. He’s by no means perfect… unless he IS perfect and this is all part of the plan… 😂😂

Aubrey Listi

I feel like Knowledge is going to be a problem.

Dave
>>167067098

Gods are limited by their nature though. What could her pretext be for instigating an invasion of another planet that’s within the bounds of her authority? Death also says in book 10 that she isn’t just limited to that universe, but that *planet*. Could Knowledge even leave Pallimastus? Ohhhh crap I think I did just realize a major plot point though…what’s the etiquette on that here? I’m pretty new to Patreon

Aaron Van Wormer

Rufus started his family’s school. Prove me wrong…

WaxDinosaur
>>167073045

If knowledge does want to invade, spreading that info around would be a fantastic way to weaken earth (if her armies aren’t enough on their own)

Justin Crisler
>>167064429

@dylan Alexander I don’t think we are reading the same novel series. This is literally a series about someone dealing with the consequences.

Stephen E Wilson Jr.
>>167079720

The system is a result of Jason soul being imprinted on the Celstial throne as part of the repair process. He's not part of it. Part of him is part of it. He is a system administrator not the system itself.

Feu et Glace

I wonder... If Gabriella is a priestess of Knowledge, doesn't that mean she has a star seed? Once the bridge is up and everything is synchronized, could that star seed be used to manifest a new Knowledge on earth, or an Avatar of Knowledge? The new Avatar could lead her forces (or all the Palli gods forces) across the bridge to 'solve' things on Earth. I have a feeling that if Jason ends up going into something like a time loop, or destroying the bridge, it won't be GAB agents that stop him, but Farrah. And that might break him more. What does it matter if you're immortal if you're mind is broken? This chapter has caused so many thoughts! Great work Shirt.

FlareNight
>>167111036

No. It's the Great Astral Beings who use star seeds, and even then they're rare other than the Builder's people.

FlareNight
>>167073824

That's why there have been multiple chapters about convincing him to do it.

FlareNight
>>167068320

From what they've said, this isn't a "we need Jason to fix this." It's "Jason is going to do immeasurable damage if he tries to fix this with the tools he has available and we know he would if we don't stop him."

Historia Jinn
>>167111036

Gabriella doesn't have a starseed, gods don't do that, she could have some divine essences given by Knowledge but they don't need something implanted to commune with their gods. I think your right about the threat being divine in nature, Knowledge we already know has her own agenda and just think about how unprepared earth is for threats like Undeath or Destruction

Stephen E Wilson Jr.
>>167073824

crux of the matter is Jason isn't the prime avatar he is a universe and as a universe he is barely an embryo.

RonGAR
>>167088639

I agree. He made a horrible decision not to come up with a better excuse/reasoning. This "Trust me" as I give you vagueries nonsense is just going to confuse all his allies and will eventually cause them to go into a confrontation amongst themselves. Essentially, he has put on his big red nose and clown shoes again. What makes matters worse, Is that Jason is trying desperately, not to grow the fuck up. Not to accept that he has changed, his friends has changed, his 'worlds' has changed. Trying very very hard, not to be the deity his now is. All he wants to do is be a Gold ranker. A Gold ranker w/ a 'God in his back pocket' but a just another 'Gold ranker'. Hanging out with his gold ranker team and allies, just palling around having a good time, and taking on self-assigned missions and ranking up together. Generally making up for lost time. Trying to avoid as much high-level responsibility as possible. You know, the things that has kept him away and caused him to avoid the transformative years of his friends and family. SMH. I don't blame him for not wanted to face those situations again out of fear that it will do exactly that, but they are all strong enough to help you face this problem and you should be straight with them, so you can face it together! He should've never accepted a deal that keeps them in the dark. If the gods didn't want you to solve it, then they should've kept their mouth shut about it. If they did, then coming to you with a plan that handicaps you, is a worse way to go about it! Should've told them to eff off and you'll take your chances. Then tell your friends something bad is coming, but the higher-ups won't say what it is. Then you all try to come up with something together. As a TEAM! And more importantly, Like a real gold-ranked JASON ASANO! THiS whole side plot sucks.

Holly Harris
>>167088639

I dunno. I love how Rathe just assumed she wasn’t talking to his prime avatar. Seems like he would have to have known how much to hide or not hide. Also, Rathe said the problem was if *he* tried to intervene. Not if other people tried to intervene because he went a little crazy and started acting out of character. And he didn’t even make any silly quips. That should have been a dead giveaway that something is seriously wrong, and that they need to take matters into their own hands. I also feel like the fact that he made the absence of the memory so obvious to his avatar as to be super painful is another reason to think that it’s deliberate.

RonGAR
>>167111036

Meh... calling or thinking the goddess of Knowledge is 'An Enemy' is 'mortal' thinking. If you are going to live a long time, eons upon eons, long enough to see stars die or be born, then ... I wouldn't bother naming any of your fellow long-lived companions, an Enemy. If you are upset with them now, fine. What about a 10yrs from now, a 100, or a 1000? Look at his relationship with the Builder, the Reaper and The World Phoenix. All of them switched sides from allies to enemies and back again. It depended on the situation and who wanted what! Jason assigning himself to commit an eternal Jihad against the Astral Kings over the lives of 2 or 3 thousand ppl, must seem as childish as a precocious toddler threatening a world leader. Because the world leader/Astral Kings already knows, by the time Jason is rdy to act on his words, he would've seen or done, far, far worse.

Nick
>>167064429

I just listened to the bit in book 10 (before jumping down the messenger hole, after taking the messengers into his soul) where Jason gets very heated at the idea of letting the unorthodoxy messengers kill some people to save the rest. Jason accepting that he has to let people die while he lives is a corruption of his character, dying to save others is kind of his thing

Daniel Heritage

Is no one going to talk about Jason getting prayers sent to his astral kingdom ? I know his parry God, astral king & GAB but it's still interesting. I'd rather talk about that than any conspiracies about knowledge or what's been foreshadowed, well people's reactions to Jason's memory issues affecting him and the affect of that on how others view him and react to it are also interesting I suppose

Ligeia
>>167070151

It will probably be a while. Shirt has drawn this out for 6+ books already, no way he's going to finally clue us in any sooner than he needs to!

Ligeia
>>167067098

Dave, feel free to spout any theory you come up with. This isn't a spoiler-free zone because we're all caught up with everything else Shirt has written. He's the only one who could spoil us, and he doesn't do that!

Ken Sevier

I am betting knowledge is a big problem and might have an separate agenda. I mean if he is creating a time loop and losing over and over the only one that could win and do that would be knowledge because she would know everything before jason. But now with a part of his memory hidden and we know other great Astral beings can't see inside his universe so he can hide information in there... maybe even build an army ? Without knowledges knowledge. I mean alot of people dieing could be earth people or maybe his messengers?

Grant Upton

I hope Jason does actually groundhoh day whatever this threat is, both bc I think a groundhog day arc would be a good introduction of stakes without removing his powers, and also Jason could get a lot of mileage out of referencing time loop movies

Evernap

Yo can I get some book recommendations?

WaxDinosaur
>>167222558

What are you looking for? A few litrpg series that I really enjoy: These are all end of the world as we know it/“apocalypse” and a “system” involved type of books. And they are all ongoing series: - Primal Hunter - Zogarth 11 books out right now, 5 weekly chapters on Royal Road/Patreon OP MC, multiversal, no harem/not focused on romance. It happens very rarely but even then isn’t detailed which I appreciate, similar to HWFWM - Infinite Realm - Ivan Kal 5 or 6 books out, ~1 weekly chapter on royal road/patreon (but it’s inconsistent) Starts out with two MC’s, chapters are focused on specific character and from their POV, so lots of different viewpoints and storylines come in, but focus is always around the two MCs, who are both generally OP - Dungeon Crawler Carl - Matt Dinniman 7 books out World ends and the “system” creates a dungeon with like 20 or 21 floors? Each book is 1 floor of the dungeon, the system is a sentient AI that occasionally interacts with MC. Each floor of the dungeon is unique and has its own theme. - Defiance of the fall - The First Defier 14 books out World ends, system comes in and brings invaders. In the early books, survivors have to fight off and close the invaders portals or risk losing earth/becoming slaves etc. OP MC. MC’s worldview grows to multiversal in later books *I struggle with the writing in this series more than any of the others, but not enough to stop reading it. A single book instead of a full series, probably not for everyone but I loved it. **Rock Falls, Everyone Dies** - zechamp

WaxDinosaur
>>167222558

A good series with an author who has made some unfortunate and (IMO) dickish decisions, so decide on your own if you want to support them: A Thousand Li - Tao Wong 10+ books out now, Cultivation series, no system or apocalypse, MC born and lives in a world that has always had Cultivation/Cultivators. Well written, good books, at least the first 4-5 that I read. Author feels he coined the term System Apocalypse because he has another series called the system apocalypse or something, and I believe he has sued, attempted to sue, and threatened to sue some authors that have described their books as being in a “system apocalypse” genre/sub-genre of litrpg

WaxDinosaur
>>167222558

Outside of LitRPG, but still fantasy: Mistborn and Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson are fantastic. The Chronicles of Amber - Roger Zelazny. MC has amnesia and has to learn who he is. Terrible description of the plot but no spoilers. Magic involved, but not a focus, one of the best fantasy series of all time A bit more teen-fantasy: David Eddings has several series that are fantastic - The Belgariad / The Mallorean follow an MC: Garion in a “coming of age” / “lost heir” type of story. - The Elenium is a three book series that’s fantastic as well. - The Redemption of Althalus - standalone book, really great writing and story, less teen fantasy, love this book. Modern Urban Magic/Detective type series: The Dresden Files - Jim Butcher. One of my favorites. First few books are a bit rough, author is learning his craft. Series so far is fantastic, 17 books out right now. 18 should be coming soon. That’s like 1-5 years of book suggestions depending on how fast you read. The Brandon Sanderson Stormlight Archive (5? Books out right now, 10 total planned for the series.) is like 6k+ pages so far? Roughly 1k - 1.2K pages per book.

Jeff

Wait... is Jason turning into earth's Dominion?

Sabroso JFD!
>>167222558

I just finished Wind and Truth. I'm going back to page 1 and rereading it immediately to get a better grasp of it

MrCynical
>>167088639

I disagree. He's doing the same thing people far more powerful and far far wiser than is have done. Just the to the incredibly vague warnings and threats Dawn gave after explicitly telling the people too smart to leave.

DirePants
>>167088639

Rongar, yeah I didn’t take into account his need to just be a gold ranker, and I can admit he’s brought it up enough but idk I think he’s beyond that. I’m still thinking either that little exchange was on purpose- a calculated chess move on God Jason’s board or- Avatar Jason being his normal trusting human self. Shirt doesn’t normally make characters do arbitrary things unless it’s comical. Either way I think this will end up being an important point.

Betsy R
>>167089253

It literally said in this chapter him being a god was gonna be more complicated for Gabrielle than Jason and I feel like Shirt is usually pretty careful with his word choices when he’s dropping info nuggets so I don’t think he said it would be less of Jason’s problem than hers if knowledge was gonna pull a coup.

Aubrey Listi
>>167089253

No, I mean I'm theorizing that Knowledge coming to Earth through The Link is going to be the problem.

Aubrey Listi
>>167111036

My theory is that Knowledge coming to Earth changes her. And not in a good way, given how the people of earth are. Or maybe "knowledge is power" has already changed her. Or something.

MrCynical
>>167088639

I think for this upcoming battle information control is going to be as important or more so than his fight over the Cosmic Throne. Jason knows what the upcoming fight is, but has to keep it from his avatar and even Dawn was super cagey about what she told his team and even then made everyone not a full member of the team and Clive, the one all too capable of figuring out what she was talking around, leave. If, after learning from Dawn and Raythe what was coming, was 100% against their restrictions he'd absolutely find some way to inform the others. But he's not, meaning he recognizes their wariness in letting those who are going to facing the upcoming threat directly know about it ahead of time because it'd likely be bad for them to know. And if Jason's explicit question about "Travis' wife" is hinting that Knowledge is in on this war then that explains why he can't risk them knowing when they go back to Pallimustus.

Betsy R
>>167262761

If he wasn’t already the GAB for the system he could have potentially became the GAB equivalent of Dominion’s boss maybe or maybe being The System will cover that role as well???

Seaspike
>>167222558

Beware of Chicken. Funny, uses the opposite of many tropes.

Seaspike

Ahh... effing daylight savings...

Razeel Nightfall
>>167222558

-sylver seeker 6 book A necromancer witness the death of all those that he loves before being permanently killed. He is reborn into the same world, but with a system that just gives everyone magic and tells them how to use it. Sylver bucks the system, and decides to find those that he lost. Pitty those who stand before him. -path of ascension 8 book -defiance of the fallen 14 books -primal hunter 11 books -battle mage farmer 9ish books -return of the runebound professor 3 published books but book 6 has been started.

Kconraw

Thx for the chapter

SuPerNooB102
>>167222558

Path of Ascension is another great LiTRPG. Highly recommend Brandon Sanderson - Mist Born is a great place to Patrick Rothfuss - Name of the wind Red Rising Trilogy Empire of the Vampire Random enjoyable litRpG - Heretical Fishing (Heath miller narrates it)

SuPerNooB102

I haven’t kept up since November. It was great to crush 15 chapters non stop. Back to reading one at a time.

Maria Klein
>>167161337

My guess is they are from the people he saved back during the reaper’s challenge. They are his own little cult … and he hates that. lol

Maria Klein
>>167064429

I agree with the exception of one point. It’s not that no one else could it’s that no one else would. The biggest thing that has pulled Jason out of so much is his absolute desire to not give up or give in, especially when it’s the every day people that will suffer. Previously there have always been people that could do what he’s done, gold and diamond rank, but god forbid they humble themselves enough save the little guy

Maria Klein

I’m on the fence with the idea of the gods coming over. It’s been stated repeatedly that earth’s magic can’t support gods. They might send armies over but I still don’t see gods making the trip. Except maybe dominion and that’s just because he’s a dick

Mitha

With a bit of time since this released, I want to give my 2 cents: 1. The attacker will most likely be knowledge. She already has multiple armies ready. The part about Travis' Wife, who doesn't know, is the biggest hint. 2. I HATE time travel. It's very rarely done well, and there are always huge logic gaps one has to overlook. So hopefully Shirt will keep it to a minimum and don't muck up the excellent worldbuilding.

Opossums Coat

Poor Jason, he just wants to bop about with his friends but has to stop another cosmos level disaster and answer all his prayers first

Chasen Mobley
>>167193122

I’ve thought for a while that there is going to be a god from the other world that is going to come to Earth do be the one ruler type on earth, maybe a god trying to reach true immortality since they supposedly die with the planet. Now that you say it, knowledge could fit the bill. She did also raise an army, maybe not just to fight the messengers

Parker Bond
>>169186606

It would make sense that knowledge, being aware of the technology earth has and the atrocities committed on earth, would decide a preemptive strike to subjugate earth is the best path forward. Alternatively, Knowledge could be looking to use the benefit of the extra knowledge earth has and its connection to Pallimustus to boost her power level and make her not just a god but THE god on earth.

Parker Bond
>>167497100

They also state that Earth and Pallimustus are effectively 2 sides of the same coin.

Chloe

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