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Star Trek: TNG 3x17 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Mark McKeown

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Thomas Corp

If I had a nickel for every time the first Star Trek reaction of the year was a Worf/Klingon episode, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice. You asked would it make you cry, I said, “Yeah. Quite possible, yes.” Ultimately, no tears, though yeah, you got misty-eyed some, which got me pretty good. Start by talking about the big guest star of the episode, our dearly departed Tony Todd. I was sorry to hear of his death almost two months ago. Seeing him as Kurn again was emotional as a result. Kurn was set on running a tight ship. He also had some strong food opinions. Curious if Klingons would love bagna càuda? Sort of forgot about Kurn upsetting Geordi. Getting to that part when watching to prepare for your reaction, you, of course, crossed my mind when Geordi expressed being upset, and I said, “Ah, dang.” Fortunately, the focus shifts; Getting into the meat and potatoes of the episode. Loved the look on your face when we learn that Kurn is Worf’s little brother. Kicking off the big political plotline of the episode. Where, yes, a strength is how Worf, contrast to past episodes is sure of who he is, his character. Michael was excellent throughout, especially his line read of that great line, “It is a good day to die, Duras, but the day is not yet over.” And Michael and Tony had great brotherly energy to them. Knew you would appreciate Picard standing by Worf here. Two back-to-back episodes of Picard going to bat for his crew. You speak well of how the mystery is slightly vague enough to allow uncertainty about the guilt or innocence of the brothers’ father. You would certainly hope their father is innocent, yet the uncertainty is there. Love Geordi catching a loose thread or two, unsurprisingly you loved that yourself. Sweet too how Beverly offered the words she did. Then there’s the scene where in Kurn’s absence, Picard assumes the role of Cha’DIch. Sir Patrick Stewart saying the Klingon words with such Shakespearean gravitas, and your reaction to that, be still, my heart. Then there was the ecstatically delightful reaction you had to Picard’s BADASS line, “You may TEST that assumption at your convenience.” Such joy it incites in my heart to see it, Jess. It is great when Picard discovers Kahlest, and especially when Kahlest saves Picard’s bacon, loved your encouragement there. Rather like when Khalest tells K’mpec that he is still fat, and how K’mpec’s face falls at that. Your own reaction there was amusing. Leading to the big reveal of it was already known that the father of Duras was the true culprit, but because of the risk of political instability, the truth must remain buried. Even with Picard arguing with the “NOT good enough, damn it, NOT good enough!!” passion, we cannot achieve a victory. And yes, it shows a tremendous moment for Worf, where he accepts the discommendation so that his little brother can live, and that the Klingon Empire can avoid the upheaval if the truth were to come out. One small problem is Duras, who I like you had the aversion to him. It seems K’mpec would agree as when Worf backhanded Duras, K’mpec silently had the “I didn’t see any of it, but I loved it.” response. Great to have the scene where Kurn is against Worf’s decision, and Picard impresses upon him how the decision allows Kurn to live to fight another day. Culminating in the discommendation ceremony, where the Klingons perform the Plan 9 From Outer Space looking salute, and turn their backs on Worf. Michael packing the emotion in his voice reminding Kurn that he has to do the same, and Tony perfectly selling without dialogue, the pain it causes him to do so. And whilst this transpires, Picard is there, by Worf’s side, and it was lovely to see that warmed your heart, Jess. One quick small note on the reaction. It was a jolt when your remote dropped, which you explained that’s what happened. Hell of a thud your remote made. That or just really damn good microphones ya got there. As you say, we start off our year of Star Trek reactions on a strong note, and it was a spectacular reaction, Jess, thank you so much.

Ryan

First off, you ask what's up with Riker always flipping his leg over chairs (lovingly called the Riker Maneuver by fans). Before getting into acting, Frakes worked for a moving company and one day on the job lifted something he shouldn't have, resulting in a permanent back injury which makes that the most comfortable way he can sit down. Which also means that like Jed Bartlett's jacket flip, you can see it in some other roles despite it being so associated with one particular character. This recently culminated in the Lower Decks crossover episode of Strange New Worlds, where Jack Quaid improvised shouting "Riker!" as he mounted a saddle...right in front of Frakes as the episode's director, who loved it. One of the biggest things I'm struck with in this episode is how the whole first act pulls a fast one on you, making this seem like a simple perspective flip on A Matter of Honor, which probably could have been a perfectly good episode on its own. But that wasn't enough for Ron Moore, who'd worked up enough clout by this point to further stretch how far he could go with these intricate political stories that also dig deep into the characters and surprising revelations about them. Tony Todd, at this point still a couple years away from his breakout role in Candyman, shows just why he became such a beloved star with a one of a kind screen presence, and being able to handle all kinds of different emotions equally well. And there's even a bonus of Patrick Stewart getting to show more righteous indignation on behalf of his crew, which never gets old. I imagine that ending was pretty shocking at the time. Shows like this back then weren't exactly averse to total downbeat endings (just witness last week) but it was very rare that they'd call out so clearly for a direct follow-up like this (which Moore confirms in the commentary was exactly his intention). Just the fact that Worf's biological brother has been introduced and is still alive opens up all kinds of doors that certainly had me very excited to see where it could go on first viewing. And Moore took on basically everything involving the ongoing story of the Klingons as his personal project from now on, with so much of it recognizable as the seeds of Battlestar, Outlander, and even For All Mankind.

Ryan
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Todd as Venom was one of the best parts of the Spider-Man 2 video game, and anyone else who tries to take on the role has a lot to live up to. I also really dug his cameo in Riverdale, as a mysterious truck driver who may or may not be a murderer with a body in his pickup bed, coming out of nowhere and freaking everyone out before leaving just as much a mystery as when he arrived, never to be seen again.

Thomas Corp
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I heard that in addition to the injury, Jonathan’s height, combined with the chairs being short didn’t help matters either, hence the maneuver. Hadn’t heard about the ad-lib Jack Quaid did in the crossover episode you mentioned. Nice to hear that Jonathan had a good laugh at it. They flip the script most effectively, yeah. You expect a reversal of A Matter of Honor, (which yes, that would have been great in and of itself,) and instead you get the intricate political drama which is so amazing. Like I said, revisiting this one not quite two month’s following Tony’s death was emotional. The man had range. Saw you mentioned the Riverdale cameo; that sounds just goddamn amazing. Always a tremendous pleasure to have more of Sir Patrick Stewart getting to show righteous indignation on behalf of his crew. Yeah, a big thing I would imagine back then was how the ending just begs for a follow-up, which was completely unheard of for network dramas back then. It just leaves the audience foaming at the mouth for more, and Moore clearly shows trust and respect to the Trekkies to present such a deliberate call for a continuation that they’d prevent the show from being cancelled before it can happen. Rather love how Moore took on basically everything involving the ongoing story of the Klingons as his personal project.

Geordie Joe

I think tearing up during a reaction should count as half crying, so the last 3 episodes puts you at 2 and a half times for crying. I had a feeling you wouldn't take too kindly to Kurn going after Geordi at the beginning of the episode, but I suppose it was all part of the act so he could get close to Worf so I suppose he gets a free pass. Picard being the only one left looking at Worf at the end is very powerful imagery. The Worf focused episodes seem to get better and better as time goes on in TNG. Picard going above and beyond for his crew members once again is one of the reasons why he's my favourite Star Trek captain. I know Kirk looks after his crew too, but it just hits different with Picard for me. The Kirk or Picard debate has been a hot topic among the Star Trek fandom for many years now but for me personally, it's Picard hands down.

Thomas Corp
>>160335261

Kurn is also critical of the crew as a whole, not just Geordi. Jess, of course, would be more singularly focused on the going after Geordi. Though, yes, likely it is an act, combined with the meat and potatoes of the episode shifts to the Worf/Klingon focus, it felt like Jess let Kurn off with just a warning, allowing him to avoid getting on her shit list. She’d be like a referee at a sporting event, saying, “That’s going after Geordi behavior! That’s a warning!” There is something just that much more special about Picard going to bat for his crew that just gets you right in the heart. It really is no question, the debate between Picard or Kirk, as it is Picard. There is admittedly a touch of bias as I just love Patrick Stewart so much, but it’s as I say, no question, choosing between Picard and Kirk, it’s Picard who is the best. Period.

Geordie Joe
>>160335261

No shade on Kirk either. I do enjoy TOS and his run as captain of the Enterprise. It's just I feel a lot more empathy coming from Picard. "Big old softy" as Jess likes to call him. Be interesting to hear her thoughts on the Kirk or Picard debate.

Thomas Corp
>>160335261

I confess that in ranking the main crew of the original series, Kirk would end up in last place. Even so, yeah, he is a great and enjoyable character. I like him better in the films. There is just the greater empathy felt from Picard. Jess is accurate in her descriptions of Picard being a “big old softy”, as the man is such a lump of sugar. I would imagine Jess is on the side of Picard in the whole Picard or Kirk debate, given her reactions. Would be something to hear her thoughts on that.